HI Wally,

I"m wondering if somehow the label is listing NOCT instead of STC?

Jay

peltz power




On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Wallace Stahle wrote:

> 
> On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Marv Dargatz wrote:
> 
>> OK, got it.
>>  
>> The reason I asked, is some people in the past have used Isc and Voc to 
>> attempt a power calculation.  Obviously very erroneous results with this.
>>  
>> I agree that the labeling, as you’ve described it, is a bit misleading.  
>> Perhaps they just had a dyslexic person running the labeling machine.  To 
>> some, 120 and 102 might look the same. 
> 
> They don't actually state 102 watts on the label. Only Vmp of 16.8 and Imp of 
> 6.08.  The install doc within did state the the STC watts are 102. along with 
> specs on the other sizes in KC line.
>>  
>> Have you tested the modules for actual power output?
> 
> Not yet. The customer, a solar installer trainee who is trying to spare his 
> Mom full time 2000 watt generator use, has wired them up (with other Sharp 
> 123s he replaced on his array) but he has nothing more to measure output with 
> than a Trimetric.
> 
> I will test them when returning for final and will include the Daystar insol. 
> meter at array slope as well as mod temp reading and DC clamp meter.
> 
> I reckon it will be corrected for around 102 watts per the install doc.
> 
> Thanks for asking.
> Wallace Stahle
> Future Electric Energy Co
> P O Box 236
> Willits, CA 95490
> fut...@pacific.net
> CA Lic.# C10-762093
> 707-459-0474
> 
> 
> 
>>  
>>  
>> See ya!
>>  
>> Marv
>> Director of Technology and Support, North America
>> SolarEdge Technologies, Inc.
>> Tech Support North America:  +877.360.5292
>> Mobile: +530.392.0356
>>  
>> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
>> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Wallace 
>> Stahle
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:36 PM
>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Kyocera KC 120-1R = 102 Watt
>>  
>>  
>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Marv Dargatz wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What is “peak volts” and “peak amps”?
>>  
>> The only ratings that should apply here are Vmp and Imp.  Plus, of course, 
>> deratings for temperature and correction for irradiance and angle of 
>> incidence.
>>  See ya!
>>  
>> Marv 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> I multiplied the labeled peak volts x the peak amps at STC.  That is, using 
>> the stated data from label on back of module.
>>  
>>  
>> Uh yeah, up here in Northern California, or at least the small padded room 
>> I'm in, peak volts and peak amps are the same as Vmp and Imp. I just got 
>> sloppy being way tired when I posted that.
>>  
>> Even with that fuzzyness explained,  the KC120-1R modules being sent as 
>> replacements are actually LABELED on back as putting out 102 watts at STC  
>> if you multiply the.... stated on the label.
>> Yet it is called KC120-1R   That is shocking and represents deliberate 
>> deception in my opinion. 
>> 
>>  
>> If any of you have replaced these faulty KC120s with KC120-1R then I 
>> encourage you to find out what the labeled Vmp x Imp is.
>>  
>> If you want to open a can of worms that is.
>>  
>> It may be these two are an anomaly. I am having the recipient of the batch 
>> in question confirm on those he has.
>>  
>> Happy trails,
>>  
>> Wallace Stahle
>> Future Electric Energy Co
>> P O Box 236
>> Willits, CA 95490
>> fut...@pacific.net
>> CA Lic.# C10-762093
>> 707-459-0474
>>  
>>  
>>  
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