This dialog is pretty informative, and I think that it boils down to distortion and probably harmonic distortion. There are in addition to scopes, specialized "harmonic distortion analyzers". I think I should be able to lay my hands on one.
I want to pull the trigger on this purchase. I think the eu2000 is the unit for me in terms of power output -- I am assuming that the steady state output is less say 1,600 W. Does Honda spec distortion? Does the eu2000 have an autostart feature/option? Any other features/options that I should be aware of? Thanks in advance for the information - Peter Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dan Fink Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:11 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Honda EU3000i pranks Already been caught on this one. The inverter/charger is a Magnum MME with a Honda 3000i. Adding a load to the Honda drops the Hz reading in half, but still some high harmonic of the real reading, and the Magnum still rejects it. Glad I didn't spend the $900 on the new honda module now! Didn't take the genny to the dealer because the only way to get it there is by helicopter. Expensive lesson here too; our solution was for the client to purchase another honda eu2000i for that site with the Magnum MME and bring the 3000i to a different camp that has no inverter/charger by helicopter long line sling load. And hey, same price for the new 2000i as for the new 3000i module that probably wouldn't have worked!!! -- Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 (voicemail) On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Jeff Oldham <starpowe...@juno.com> wrote: > I recently had a costly lesson with one of these usually sweet gensets - > With a good and fast meter like my Fluke 189 you can get wacky Hz readings. > I had one that the inverter would not accept. checked V and Hz and saw the > Hz at over 1000. Talked to Honda service center and they confirmed that the > genny's inverter module contained ALL control parts and if there is a V, Hz, > low power or constant overload it will be this single module. So, $900 later > and a quick and easy swap, the problem did not go away and the Hz was still > crazy. Talked to service center again, they confirmed that it was the module > but could not believe that the new one was defective and asked if I could > bring it to them. I did and their meters read 60Hz, all 3 of the meters they > had in the shop, put mine on it and over 1000Hz again. Plugged my leads into > the shop utility power and it was 60Hz and so it was on a Honda 1000 and > 2000, they had another EU3000i in the shop and again I got over 1000. OK, a > call into Honda now this time we got a rep that saw this before and said it > is normal for this with a very fast meter and ONLY on the EU3000i no other > genny they make! Took it back, put the old inverter module back in and still > no connection to inverter. Now (perhaps before?) I check his inverter > settings, the AC input current was set too high!! UUuurrggg, never had my > trusty Fluke live up to its brand name before. So, stuck with an inverter > module for a EU3000i with 5 mins. on it, anyone need one contact me off > list. > > Don't get caught in this one! > > > From the Solar, Wind and Hydro powered office of Jeff Oldham/Regenerative > SOLutions _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org