Allan,

You might consider low ESR/ESL capacitors in parallel with the batteries to 
provide motor start surge.  Much cheaper and require no maintenance.


See ya!

Marv
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SolarEdge Technologies, Inc.
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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:53 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Design Question re Battery Bank Sizing

Esteemed fellow Wrenches,
We need to size a battery bank for a GTWB just for starting a well pump. The 
well is on its own meter, so as long as the battery voltage does not crash when 
the pump starts there will be plenty of capacity left over for minimal loads.  
We'll be using sealed batteries, most likely Concorde SunXtenders. According to 
theSunXtender Technical Manual, Concordes can handle up to a C/0.2 charge rate 
(500A for a 100Ah battery), but there is no discussion of maximum discharge 
rates or voltage drop due to large surge loads.

The pump is 3HP and is conventional 3-wire, not soft-start. The well is 940ft. 
and the depth to water is unknown. It pumps into a pressure tank, not open 
discharge. Customers are not interested in replacing the pump, but might be 
talked into adding a soft start Franklin controller, although at this 
preliminary design stage we're not certain one is available for this particular 
model. The inverter would be a Radian, so system voltage is 48V.

I would think that configuration would make a difference, as well as size. 
Using 12V batteries in series/parallel would minimize interconnect and terminal 
resistance. I think that it would also allow multiple paths for discharge 
current, reducing the voltage dip.

What's your best guess at the smallest size battery bank that would reliably 
start this pump, and how would it best be configured?

Thank you,
Allan

Allan Sindelar
al...@positiveenergysolar.com<mailto:al...@positiveenergysolar.com>
NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Positive Energy, Inc.
3201 Calle Marie
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
505 424-1112
www.positiveenergysolar.com<http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/>







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