Jason,

If LBCO is 46.00 and the 2 minute start is 47.2. When the voltage goes below 
47.2 the 2 minute start timer would begin to count down.When the voltage 
reaches 46.00 the five minute LBCO voltage timer starts. Because the 2 minute 
timer will expire in 2 minutes and even if the warm-up time was 4 minutes, the 
inverter would still engage the Aux Output to start the genset and charge the 
batteries.

If there is a case if the LBCO occurs before the AGS 2 minute start is 
activated that the generator will not start because after the load is dropped 
the voltage would rise above the 2 minute start voltage. This case is easily 
resolved by programming the LBCO below the 2 minute start voltage.

Even if you have hit LBCO and the inverter has shut off the AGS function still 
works and will engage the relay (via the aux port) to start the Generator.

Steve Higgins
Outback Power Technologies.

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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jason Szumlanski
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:04 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] MATE3 Controller RE: Re-configuring expanded array

This reminded me of another subject about the MATE3.

I was surprised to find out that advanced generator start does not work 
properly if the batteries reach LBCO before the 2 minute start timer fires the 
generator with an external relay attached to one of the inverters. The AGS 
settings are stored in the MATE3, so it tries to tell the inverter to trigger 
the external relay once the 2 minute voltage has been reached, but if LBCO has 
been reached, the inverter will not supply voltage to the coil.

This logic does not work. Let's say you have LBCO set to 46.0V and the 2 minute 
start voltage set to 47.2V. Under a very heavy load, it is completely plausible 
that the LBCO could be met before the AGS via the inverter has time to start 
the generator. The only "solution" is to have an unacceptably high (IMHO) 
spread between the 2 minute start and the LBCO.

In this case, I don't want to set the LBCO too low (i.e. default) because the 
system is unattended and if the generator does not start for whatever reason, 
it is reasonable to expect that the battery voltage could slowly decrease to 
the LBCO and then stay there for a long period of time until the problem is 
discovered. I want to keep the LBCO relatively high, but I want the generator 
to reliably start using start timers, SOC, or load. I think this is a poor 
implementation of this feature, leading me to consider a completely separate or 
auxiliary AGS system that is voltage dependent without relying on the inverter 
relay to start the generator.

Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar


From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of 
hol...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:06 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Re-configuring expanded array

Maverick,
I don't think system owner will let me pry his mate3 out of his hands.....and 
oops! it will be 2- 6 slot combiners....thanks for the feedback. Look forward 
to meeting you someday.


Holt E. Kelly
Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products
500 Jewell Dr.
Waco TX. 76712
254-751-9111
www.holteksolar.com<http://www.holteksolar.com>
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