Peter, Correct. After a fault due to any utility protective function, the inverter must monitor the grid and all parameters must remain within acceptable limits for a default time of 300 seconds prior to reconnection and commencement of power export. If, during the 300 second monitoring time, the utility goes out of spec, the timer must start over and begin a new countdown. With utility authorization, the 300 second timer may be reduced to some other value acceptable to the utility protection engineer.
See ya! Marv Director of Technology and Support, North America SolarEdge Technologies, Inc. Tech Support Mobile: +530.798.6770 Mobile: +530.392.0356 -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Peter Parrish Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:50 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Anti-Islanding Explanantion Thanks Marv. For the purposes of explaining anti-islanding to non-technical people, I think the default frequency range of 59.3Hz to 60.5Hz, and the default voltage range is 88% to 110% of nominal is good for starters especially in the perspective of the initial start-up of a gird-tied PV system. Just so I am completely sure of what you are saying: For a split phase 120/240 Vac, 60 Hz system...the PV system would connect to the grid if after 5 minutes the The voltage window would be 105.6 Vac to 132 Vac, L1-N and L2-N. And the frequency window would be 59.3 Hz to 60.5 Hz. - Peter Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marv Dargatz Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:11 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Anti-Islanding Explanantion Wrenches, I feel compelled to reply here, as I have personally performed all of these tests and listed several dozen inverters over the last 10 years. The "Utility-Interactive" marking on listed inverters means that they meet all of the Utility Protective Function requirements as outlined in IEEE1547.0, and have been tested in accordance with the procedures detailed in IEEE1547.1. Most of the functions have a threshold value and a response time associated with them. The Utility Protective Functions include: Temperature stability Abnormal voltage Abnormal frequency Synchronization Interconnection Integrity DC injection Unintentional Islanding Reverse Power Open Phase Reconnect after abnormal condition disconnect Harmonics Flicker All of these tests must be performed using equipment that meets certain accuracy requirements, and includes considerations for "manufacturer's stated accuracy" of these functions. In addition, there are utility related performance criteria in UL1741. For instance, during abnormal condition tests, the maximum fault current and duration must be quantified and published as a rating. Just to clarify some of what Peter wrote, the default frequency range is 59.3Hz to 60.5Hz, and the default voltage range is 88% to 110% of nominal. The voltage must be measured from line to neutral if a neutral is present in the connection (i.e. a Y transformer connection). In addition, there are outer boundaries that require faster trip times. Bottom line is, if the inverter has a listing mark on it (UL, CSA, ETL, TUV, etc) and is marked "Utility-Interactive" there should be little or no question as to its' suitability for interconnection. Hope this helps. See ya! Marv Director of Technology and Support, North America SolarEdge Technologies, Inc. Tech Support Mobile: +530.798.6770 Mobile: +530.392.0356 -----Original Message----- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of R Ray Walters Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:44 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Anti-Islanding Explanantion If you wouldn't mind Peter, I'd like to see this discussion stay on the list. I'd be interested to learn more about the actual anti-islanding features of inverters. What you've described seems to just cover the voltage and frequency windows that the inverter will grid tie to. I was always under the impression (perhaps false) that there were additional software controls to prevent anti-islanding to another inverter. Bill Brooks seems to know more about UL1741 test procedures. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Peter Parrish wrote: > I need to give a group of California educators the simplified > explanation of inverter anti-islanding. I know the full details are > quite complicated and have evolved a bit over the past few years, but > would the following be an acceptable short explanation? > > *** Please contact me off-list with comments & edits. Thanks. *** > > This is an excerpt from a longer discussion about designing and > installing grid-tied "Inverter anti-islanding is a requirement of the > NEC and the Underwriter's Laboratory test procedures. A somewhat > over-simplified version of "anti-islanding" says that if the grid > voltage goes out of the range of 216 to 264 Vac or if the grid > frequency goes out of the range 59.9 to 60.1 Hz, the inverter must > shut down within one cycle (1/60th of a second). Once in this shutdown > mode, the grid must come back into compliance (both frequency and > voltage) for 5 continuous minutes before the inverter may turn on again. > This is pretty "ho-hum". However, two of our laboratory sessions > involve building a real, grid-connected PV system. So when our > students go to turn on their system for the first time, they get to > experience the "anti-islanding" function first hand." > > Peter T. 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