Kent, Jason, or anyone else

Would you a have a simple one-line you could share for wiring the inverter on 
the utility side of the transfer switch? 

Thank you.

Larry Liesner
Wirewiz
Westport, CT
Phone: 203-644-2404
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On Mar 26, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:

> We’ve explored this strategy many times due to all of the whole house and 
> critical load generators in Florida. We’ve stayed away from the contactor 
> solution because of the potential for the NC contactor failing to open, 
> keeping the inverters “online” when transferred to generator power. While 
> unlikely, this is a possibility that must be considered.
>  
> The other issue presented here is that the inverters will shut down every 
> time the generator exercises.
>  
> The only sure-fire way seems to be wiring the inverter on the utility side of 
> the transfer switch, as Kent said.
>  
> Jason Szumlanski
> Fafco Solar
>  
>  
> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kent Osterberg
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:56 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and Enphase
>  
> Mark,
> 
> I agree it is best to wire the inverters on the utility side of the transfer 
> switch. When that isn't easy, a normally closed contactor that is opened by 
> generator voltage, will isolate the inverters from the generator and allow 
> automatic return to utility operation when the generator is off.
> 
> Kent Osterberg
> Blue Mountain Solar
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Frye wrote:
> Eric,
>  
> I do not have direct experience with this but have been exploring the issue 
> for a project I am currently doing.
>  
> My response will be to take the trouble to interconnect the Enphase inverters 
> on the line side of the tranfer switch so that the inverters can never be 
> connected to the generator.
>  
> Here are the reasons why:
>  
> 1 - Enphase states that any such application is considered an "off-grid" 
> application which voids their warrenty. As I am installing under the 
> California CSI program, I am required to provide a 10 year manufacture 
> equipment warranty so I cannot afford to install the inverters in a 
> dis-allowed manner.
>  
> 2 - Enphase states that the waveform of the generator may be "clean" enough 
> such that the inverter may attempt to syncornize and connect to it as if it 
> were the utility. If this were to happen Enphase believes the inverters will 
> ruin the generator regulator before the generator ruin the inverter. I don't 
> want to be the one to run the experiment to find out which would be which.
>  
> 3 - I considered a contactor on the output of the inverters, such that the 
> inverters would isolated by a loss of line voltage, requiring some form of 
> reset. Ulitmately my customer agreed with me that this was an undesirable 
> constraint on the operation of an otherwise reliable grid-tied system and it 
> was not clear that this would satify the warranty issue.
>  
> Mark Frye 
> Berkeley Solar Electric Systems 
> 303 Redbud Way 
> Nevada City,  CA 95959 
> (530) 401-8024 
> www.berkeleysolar.com 
>  
>  
> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Eric Thomas
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:09 PM
> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Generator and Enphase
> 
> I have a customer with a "30A Mechanically Interlocked Breaker" for their 
> generator feed at the main panel. My question is: If the home power is 
> transferred from utility to generator power, will the backfed PV see the 
> generator as grid power and sync up and produce? This is a nice Honda 
> Generator so the power should be fairly clean. Any experiences are 
> appreciated.
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> 
> Eric Thomas
> Solar Epiphany LLC
> (206) 919-3014
> www.solarepiphany.com
> 
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