Great ideas on load management to save the DC/AC system sizing. I haven’t spent 
time researching their need for this 3hp pump or age and all, but definitely 
worth looking at that side. Since it does pump to the 3000g gravity feed tank 
up the hill. What’s strange is there is still a bladder tank in the garage, 
possibly decommissioned when they added the gravity system.

 

Sincerely,

Chris Worcester

Solar Wind Works
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Phone: 530-582-4503
Fax: 530-582-4603
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"Proven Energy Solutions"

 

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:48 PM
To: jry...@netscape.com; RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] two VFX3524's and a Franklin 3hp sub pump

 

Chris,
We deal with deep wells routinely.

Recently we installed a GTWB system for a very enjoyable retired couple. Their 
needs included the goat milker, sheep barn, two freezers and a fridge, and 
irrigation well pump, with the system sized for continuous operation in the 
event of a long-term (i.e. permanent) loss of the grid. This was on one acre in 
the suburbs south of Albuquerque. We used an XW4548, as it was the only 
battery-based, 120/240, single-inverter, grid-tie unit available currently.

As part of the normal load-reduction process, we determined that the 2hp 
conventional well pump could be replaced with a 1hp soft-start SQ and have 
adequate head and flow for their sprinklers. Changing out the pump way more 
than paid for itself in the amount of inverter capacity we didn't need. 

I would encourage you to look at both of these related issues carefully as part 
of this situation: could a smaller pump meet the head and flow requirements of 
this site, and is a soft-start pump available? Usually, if an inverter or stack 
of them can't handle a big inductive load like a conventional pump, it's 
because of the starting surge. I suspect a smaller soft-start pump may be 
doable in your situation.
Allan

Allan Sindelar
 <mailto:al...@positiveenergysolar.com> al...@positiveenergysolar.com
NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Positive Energy, Inc.
3201 Calle Marie
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
505 424-1112
 <http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/> www.positiveenergysolar.com

 

Hello offgrid Wrenches,

I just inherited an off grid system with one VFX3524 inverter running the home 
loads, and a 17kW Guardian Generac they use for charging (through an X-240 back 
into the inverter) & to run their Franklin 3hp 240 VAC well pump, S. F. max amp 
17.0 ( rated on its controller)

This is a really convoluted system as they have another 120/240 VAC Transformer 
to have the inverter talk to the 240 volt signal the gen set needs to see. 
Yikes.

So I am proposing to add a second inverter if it can run the well pump and 
eliminate the extra transformer. This will also reduce gen set run time in half 
while battery charging, a big plus with the nice 24V Hawker battery bank, 1020 
AH at the 6 hour rate.

There aren’t any other unusual large AC loads in the home, just the fridge, 
washer, computer, and such. LPG for cooking, water heating, clothes dryer. 

Thanks in advance for all ideas here!

 

Sincerely,

Chris Worcester

Solar Wind Works
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Phone: 530-582-4503
Fax: 530-582-4603
 <http://www.solarwindworks.com/> www.solarwindworks.com
 <mailto:ch...@solarwindworks.com> ch...@solarwindworks.com
"Proven Energy Solutions"

 

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