Allan:

At the point of the short circuit, the amperage will exceed the rating of a 100 amp feeder. If the main panel had no extra breaker spaces, it could still be subject to a short circuit if, for example, a wrench is dropped into it.

I should add that I am not an electrical engineer nor am I trying to justify the codes that apply. I am just trying to explain how I see the codes are applied. It is necessary to understand this to avoid incorrect system design and fruitless discussions with building officials.

William



At 07:22 AM 8/2/2009, you wrote:
William,
Wow – you’re a master at whipping up drawings!

OK, I get the concept, and it’s just as I described. The scenarios in drawings one and two are OK as long as both busbars are rated 150A (commercial) or 125A (residential.

You then show that the reason for the upsized feeders is to handle a short. But wait! Even if the short could produce 140A, as you have indicated, the conductors will still not carry more than the 100A that they’re rated to carry. One would carry 100A from one panel and 40A from the other, Nowhere would that conductor carry 140A, and the mate to it would carry at most 60A. Increasing conductor size wouldn’t change anything in that (or any) scenario. So why would you have to increase conductor size?

Thanks, Allan

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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:13 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] down-sizing main breaker

Allan:

I whipped up three drawings that indicate three overload scenarios possible with incorrectly sized distribution equipment. They are on our web site at: http://millersolar.com/case_studies/case_studies.html Click on Point of connection. Click on any drawing to see a larger version.

I hope this helps with understanding the concept.

William Miller
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