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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel Davidson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:51 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] fire safety vs. fire hysteria? It is good to see several people are trying to put out this fire (pun). Unfortunately, the internet's memory is almost impossible to purge. I think that the best corrective action is to ask fire safety people to speak up and say "No, that's not true" each time any incorrect info pops up. Joel Davidson ________________________________ From: "Jeff Clearwater, Village Power Design" <je...@villagepower.com> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:44:25 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] fire safety vs. fire hysteria? Nicely done Bill and Matt P ! Hopefully that'll set a good precedent for future discussions and guidelines on this! Jeff >William and all, > >I notified a friend of mine in the fire service about this, and he has >followed up with the website to have the article removed. Here is the thread >with me and the website: > > >Note to me: > >This article is exactly the same as one I received from a young firefighter >from Orange County, CA a few months ago. I made numerous comments on it, >and sent him our video. Curiously, I just emailed him yesterday inquiring >as to the status of his interest in publishing an >article, and heard back that he had not taken any action on it. It >appears the original "Author" got this posted. I will attempt to have this >article removed from this site, for correction. > >FE Matthew Paiss, T13B >San Jose Fire Department >San Jose, CA > > >Note from Matt to website administrator: > >Billy, > >By way of introduction, my name is Matt Paiss. I am a Fire Engineer for the >San Jose Fire Department. Additionally, I am a subject matter expert in the >area of Solar Photovoltaic (PV) Firefighter Safety, have a degree in Solar >Technology, and am a member of the State Fire Marshals Office PV Task Force >which is tasked with creating guidelines for the safe installation of said >systems. I also teach classes on PV Safety for Firefighters. > >I was sent this article (below) to review a few months ago. >http://firefighterclosecalls.com/fullstory.php?77468 > >It is riddled with incorrect statements and does a disservice to the fire >service in the fact that it presents us as ignorant to the science and >realities of Solar Photovoltaic systems. I sent the "Author" a redlined >commentary and suggested that he take some time to gather factual background >info prior to attempting to publish. > >My request is that you remove it, and refer the author to me to help correct >his info. I believe that there is information that FF's need to know about >these systems, but this is NOT it. Let's get it right. > >Best Regards, > >FE Matthew Paiss, T13B >San Jose Fire Department >San Jose, CA > > > >Note from administrator to Matt: > >Thanks Matt! Please send me what should be posted and we will not only >remove it-but will also send it out on The Secret List with your name and >any other affiliate org that can substantiate the facts. A simple (FF >readable-you know what I mean) document would be great. >Thanks! >Billy > > >Final message from Matt to administrator: > >Will do Chief! >As the info is incorrect in so many areas, would you please consider >removing it now? It does reflect poorly on both >firefighterclosecalls.com<http://firefighterclosecalls.com/> >AND the fire service in general. I was actually sent the link by a friend >who works for the DOE, and asked if I could help. I will get you a more >accurate article within a week, if you could grant me that time. I promise >it will be FF-friendly!! I am preparing for 3 classes and am a bit swamped. > >FE Matthew Paiss, T13B >San Jose Fire Department >San Jose, CA > > > >_______________________________________________ >List sponsored by Home Power magazine > >List Address: >RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > >Options & settings: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List-Archive: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List rules & etiquette: >www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm<http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> > >Check out participant bios: >www.members.re-wrenches.org<http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/> -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeff Clearwater Senior Design Engineer NABCEP (tm) Certified Solar PV Installer http://www.nabcep.org/ Village Power Design/NorthEast Solar Design Turnkey Solar Design & Installation for the Commercial Sector http://www.villagepower.com<http://www.villagepower.com/> goso...@villagepower.com<mailto:goso...@villagepower.com> Voice: 413-259-3750 Fax: 413-825-0703 65 Schoolhouse Rd Amherst, MA 01002 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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