David: I used a set of those hubs (green in color!) to build the wheelset for the green Quickbeam I built for my son – here’s a pic of the hub, showing the nice finish:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5646012976/in/set-72157626433454817 And one of the bike, after mods for Riv Rally East 2012 on the Great Allegheny Passage: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107219303/in/set-72157626433454817/ The hubs look great, and are still going strong after several thousand miles of tough city riding in Philadelphia. My son loves the bike. Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of djbardwil Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:21 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70". Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com<mailto:cyclot...@gmail.com> wrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J <thomas.a...@skadden.com<javascript:>> wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>] On Behalf Of Minh Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> Subject: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68" gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for "exercise." Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72". Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com<http://www.biketinker.com> On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons.... On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. 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