Classic 531 tubing grew out of 1930's airplane frame construction material. It was strong and light. For that reason it was good for bikes too. Thinner wall tubing came along that needed larger diameter to resist bending. Each tubeset has qualities that make it a better/poorer choice for a particular application.

I personally like a bike with a lively feel, others prefer light stiff response. I'm not very heavy, others weigh more. Our "ideal" tube sets are probably not the same. I find myself very happy on more than one kind of tubing though. My old Maruishi has skinny ones and I love it, and the Riv Road has larger ones and I love it. If I were getting a custom, I'd ask about skinny tubes, but I would pay attention to the builder's suggestions based on me and how I ride too.

My own "retro" reputation locally is becuase i wear wool and sit on leather. No one cares a bit about my bike frames. They're not carbon.

bruce

On 2/20/2014 6:41 AM, ascpgh wrote:
"Oversized" implies that, whatever the paradigm is, _this _one is different. A single scalar unjustly obsessed upon as if increasing it opened the door to greatness and performance known only to the gods of Olympus.

Bike frames seem to me (my personal disclaimer and demonstrated respect for those who design and build the frames I desire) to be a solution of enough variables that one should recognize the narrow mindedness of isolating one as the panacea. The negative implication of not being "oversized" rubs me wrong; I trust the designer/builder to resolve the design and size issues to optimize my results with the built bike.

I applaud every company who's integrity is to the bikes and less about their platoon of MBAs trying to realize bullet points for their CVs with market share et al (sorry Patrick). I get building your business and growth, I just hate seeing it go all wrong "to meet a greater marketshare" or other such brand management gyrations.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

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