I hope it is apparent that my post was focused on WTB, and only for 
products Riv currently sells. As I said, if you already own/used the 
product and want to sell it, more power to you *and* the buyer; I've bought 
and sold many Rivvy things this way. In case that wasn't clear..
 
Joe "let me be clear, I WTB those Candybar Bags Riv used to make" Bernard
Vallejo, CA

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:20:28 PM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Please let's back off the V-O comments.  Grant has addressed this more 
> than a few times.  There's no "there" there in that discussion.  
>
> It's hard to fault someone who has a decent piece of gear that they will 
> no longer use, or something they tried out (handlebars, of late, come to 
> mind here) that didn't quite work for them. If they want to post it here on 
> the list, particularly if they are regular and active member of this group, 
> I have to think that their actions come from the right place.    
>
> And I do think that works from the purchasing end as well.  We can't know 
> someone's financial position, and at times in life, the money saved or 
> earned might have go directly to rent or food or care. 
>
> I suspect those transactions, though during the winter season they seem to 
> particularly flourish, are still a small eddy compared the flow of goods 
> from Walnut Creek.  It seems that for a great number of people here - with 
> significant geographic spread -  RBW and RBBH are their "local" bike shops. 
>
> There are more WTB posts and FS posts which don't hit the list.  Those are 
> typically from folks who try to post once and never do so again.  Don't 
> know quite how to correlate those, but assume they are trying to find 
> bargain bits for their ebay stores. 
>
> Having run a retail store for many years, I can attest that there is 
> little more maddening than working with a customer (or watching your staff 
> help someone) who was only using our shop inventory as a "showroom" for 
> whatever internet company they were planning on buying something through.  
> And it is through that lens that I first view folks posting here that 
> so-and-so has something Riv designed/sells at a hefty discount.  Though I 
> do know people who will buy from someone who is literally a dollar cheaper, 
> that's not the way I'm wired. As GP has written, I try to buy from the 
> place I saw something first.  In 1994, there weren't a lot of resources 
> around like Rivendell, so it seems appropriate to support them when I can.  
>
> - Jim / cyclofiend.com
>

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