Well said On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:07:26 PM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote: > > I guess I took it as pretty tounge-in-cheek. Spending as much time > reading forums as I do, that are all way less civil than this one, > I've probably forgotten how to be offended - though I can see how many > would take it that way. It's DEFINITELY generational, however - which, > though I didn't say it, is what I thought was so interesting about it. > > I've always felt that Surly could never have even existed had it not been > for Rivendell. When they launched, the concept of a company focusing on > building skinny-tubed, steel bikes with 1" headsets, provisions for racks, > and room for fat tires and fenders was pretty "out there" to most > mainstream consumers. Yet, for all this, they've thrived. And, partly, > on the tails of bikes like the Long Haul Trucker which was a direct copy of > the All Rounder. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it makes > it more ironic that they produced this patch so shortly after Riv quoined > and started marketing the whole "Un-Racer" thing. > > What I find interesting though, is how two companies can be so eerlily > *similar* - building no-nonsense bikes that work, are repairable, aren't > going to go out of style, and don't require the newest ever-changing > components - yet have such *different* marketplace personas. Even > though BOTH companies are actually developing thought-provoking and > useful products (together, arguably changing the face of modern bike design > more than all other companies combined), ONE of those companies is often > considered "retro-grouchy" while the other is considered "hip." > > Clearly it pays to be "offensive" on some level, depending on who your > market is. I just like anything that reminds people not to take themselves > too seriously. ;-) > > > > >>
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