very good point - make sure you have the correct torque on your freehub and 
cassette stack.  My experience comparing Campy and Shimano shifters is that 
Campy needs to be really tight on the cable clamp and then tightened 
further with the housing extension nut.  Shimano is the opposite, working 
perfectly with just a gentle snug.  

On Monday, November 25, 2013 7:29:05 AM UTC-6, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> If you changed cassette types (from Shimano to SRAM) the cogs may not 
> end up in the exact same position, so you may have to adjust your 
> shift points. Also one of the non shimano cassettes (IRD I think) 
> comes with a thin spacer that goes against the spoke end of the 
> cassette, with out it in place the cogs may be loose on the freehub 
> shell even with the lockring tightened to spec. 
>
> Anyway I would expect you will have to adjust your indexing with any 
> cassette change, and make sure to wiggle the cogs to see if they are 
> loose. 
>
> -Dave J 
>
> On 11/25/13, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > of course you never grease the bolt threads, but if you don't grease the 
> > square taper, you may not get real torque on your crank arms and this 
> would 
> > 
> > be a significant source of creak - you also have the potential of a 
> crank 
> > arm becoming lose or falling off, which is no good. 
> > 
> > On Monday, November 25, 2013 1:51:52 AM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: 
> >> 
> >> A few more details in case anyone is still reading this: 
> >> 
> >> Creaking happens under hard pedalling. I feel it through my feet, so it 
> >> really seems like it's coming from the crank area. It started a few 
> weeks 
> >> 
> >> after I replaced chain rings (from Sugino triple to 40-26-bashguard) 
> and 
> >> the chain ring bolts were a bit loose when I tightened them. Honestly, 
> I 
> >> don't remember if I greased the cranks before reinstalling them. I 
> >> usually do, but I had them off for cleaning not too much before so 
> maybe I 
> >> 
> >> figured they were good enough. I'll pull, clean, regrease and reinstall 
> >> them this weekend. 
> >> 
> >> Shifting - With the old cassette, Shimano 11-34, the only issue I 
> noticed 
> >> 
> >> while riding was failure to shift up from 18T to 15T. I had to shift 
> >> twice, 
> >> to 13T and them down again if I wanted that gear. It had been fine 
> before 
> >> 
> >> that for a long time until I replaced the chain. New and old chains 
> were 
> >> both Shimano. With the new SRAM 11-34 cassette, on the stand, it is 
> >> skipping cogs going in both directions. I would think that the cable 
> could 
> >> 
> >> be either too loose or too tight, not both. I will try the adjustment 
> >> procedure described here and hope nothing is bent. Derailler is LX from 
> >> Jensen's ($30 NOS if anyone needs). I wouldn't expect any compatability 
> >> issues, but maybe that's part of it? 
> >> 
> >> Jay 
> >> 
> >> On Sunday, November 24, 2013 4:07:51 PM UTC+2, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> 2 annoying mechanical issues on my Sam Hillborne: 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>    1. Creaking - sometimes more, sometimes less, but dramatic enough 
> to 
> >>>    be easily heard by someone riding next to me. Tried so far - 
> >>> tightening 
> >>>    chain ring bolts; cleaning, oiling and finaly replacing the chain; 
> >>> playing 
> >>>    with FD trim until cross-eyed, check BB for play. Next steps - 
> replace 
> >>> 
> >>>    pedals, replace BB even though no play, ...? 
> >>>    2. Rear shifting - indexed bar end shifter was skipping my favorite 
> >>>    cog (15T), so yesterday I replaced the cassette, thinking I had 
> waited 
> >>> too 
> >>>    long to replaced the chain a few weeks ago. Now it's skipping all 
> over 
> >>> in 
> >>>    indexed mode, both up and down. Tightening the cable (also recently 
> >>>    replaced) didn't help either so I switched to friction, which is of 
> >>> course 
> >>>    fine. I have nothing against friction, but I don't like it when 
> things 
> >>> 
> >>>    don't work. In this case I'm commuting in traffic with a 40-26 in 
> >>> front, so 
> >>>    for this terrain it's essentially a 1X9 and I want indexing. 
> >>> 
> >>> I don't have access to a Rivish LBS anymore, and no one I know around 
> >>> here has ever seen a bar end shifters. So it's just you guys. 
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks, 
> >>> Jay 
> >>> 
> >> 
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