>
> Bars are all the way up. Saddle in KOPS.

I don't have a great way to confidently articulate the possible 
biomechanical issues with Albas such as I've experienced in the past, so 
I'll ask: 

Have you tried scooting the seat back so you're a couple of centimeters 
behind KOPS? If so, have you tilted the nose up on the saddle any? And 
finally, have you played around with *lowering* the bars a bit so that the 
top of the stem is somewhere near level with the nose of the saddle?

Reason I ask is that my bike currently sports Albatross bars, and I when I 
first got 'em, I couldn't for the life of me get comfortable in a truly 
bolt upright position. As my back approached 90 degrees with top tube, a 
whole 'nother subset of core muscles seemed to take over, and my arms felt 
very limited and useless. They felt kinda short.

I found that by slowly playing with the seat setback, and dialing in the 
height of the bars to slightly lower than I'd seen in most Riv-esque pics 
where they're almost in your lap, I felt like I was able to engage a more 
comfortable range of core muscles, and being further over the top tube with 
the bars further away, my reach felt extended. 

My hands are now comfortable in all the Alba positions, but I find that 
probably 2/3 of the time I've got my palm up against the back of the brake 
levers, and a finger or two in front of them. I'm only really totally 
grips-in-hand when I'm shifting, making myself seen in traffic, or idly 
cruuuuuuising.

Anyhoo, just my experience with Albas. Your mileage may vary, as mine are 
measured in kilometers.

Jeff Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia

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