The rivet comes out pretty easily once you know the trick. 

The Riv instructions are good. 

Dan

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Elisabeth Sherwood 
> <elisabeth.sherw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh, boy! Thanks, Dan -- exactly what I needed.
> 
> Did you have any problem removing the rivet?  I tried to figure out how to 
> remove that thing for, well, way too long when I first installed the fender 
> (and finally gave up, figuring I was likely to cause more damage to the 
> fender than could be repaired), and couldn't figure it out. I see Riv tells 
> you how to do it, but I'm a little skeptical!
> 
> -- Liz
> 
> 
>> On Friday, November 8, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>> When I was building my wife's Betty Foy I had the same problem. Fortunately 
>> these items exist:
>> 
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/fe92.htm
>> 
>> It was a very tidy solution. And they work well.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> -Marin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
>>> <thomas.a...@skadden.com> wrote:
>>> Why not take off the fender flap?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Elisabeth Sherwood
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:36 PM
>>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I had Sheldon's fender nuts to install Longboards on my 650B wheels (and 
>>> was able to get the right size bolts from the hardware store [how in the 
>>> world is it possible that they don't COME with bolts???]), but after 
>>> mounting I realized it wasn't going to work -- for the front, it moved the 
>>> fender an inch closer to the ground. Even attaching the fender to the front 
>>> of the fork crown and having 38mm tires, I still worry about the bottom of 
>>> the fender flap hitting something on the ground!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -- Liz S.
>>> 
>>> Washington, DC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:13:37 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill-
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't 
>>> have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I 
>>> understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake 
>>> caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move 
>>> the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate 
>>> any advice; this was my second ever fender install.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to 
>>> remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the 
>>> topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should 
>>> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your 
>>> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of 
>>> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>>> 
>>> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The 
>>> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter 
>>> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two 
>>> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a 
>>> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.  
>>> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for 
>>> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now 
>>> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the 
>>> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa!
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