Thanks for the explanation, Bill. I'm filing this away for future reference.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:36:08 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Best of luck with it.  Your bike looks terrific all the same
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:32:04 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> Bill-
>>
>> Thanks for the advice.  I need to pick up a couple M6 bolts (and a better 
>> method to attach the fender at the chainstay bridge) at the hardware store 
>> and I'll give it a try.
>>
>> I can see how they would help you get the fender as high as possible. 
>>  Unfortunately, that won't let me step up from Lierres to Hetres; the 
>> Hetres don't fit horizontally.  I have just about 1.5mm between the tire 
>> sidewalls and the fork legs, chain-, and seatstays.  The Riv Road Standard 
>> geometry says it'll fit 700x35C tires, but mine barely fits 700x28C (short 
>> reach brakes), hence the desire for 650B.  
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:24:00 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Sheldons nuts on bikes with caliper brakes can get the fender just a 
>>> tiny bit higher under the brake and fork crown.  On the front, you can only 
>>> get the fender as high as the slot of that little L-bracket allows.  Yes 
>>> you have to bend the tip to clear the headset bottom cup, but also you'd 
>>> have to dremel it out to get the fender high enough to hit the real limit 
>>> which is the brake caliper itself.  Run the same fender on the sheldon nut 
>>> and you are a couple inches further back (correct) but that also puts you a 
>>> few precious mm further UP.  So you can run the fender a little bit closer 
>>> to the caliper.   On the rear, it's a similar thing, to a lesser extent.  
>>> That precious couple of mm is useful if you want the 10mm everywhere of 
>>> clearance that many recommend.  For some that may make the difference 
>>> between stopping at Lierres (like I have done), or going all the way to 
>>> Hetres.  The fender install can also be completely decoupled from the brake 
>>> adjustment, by using the Sheldon nut, which just simplifies things a 
>>> little.  
>>>
>>

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