I appreciate your $.02. The bike that I normally ride has the bars a few cm below the saddle. This is probably one of the causes of the numbness that I have been having in my hands on longer rides. I was just looking at the geometry charts. My current bike has a top tube of 54 - the top tube of the Ram is 3cm longer. Of course, the angles are a bit different on the bikes.
In the grand scheme of things, when I look at the charts, a few centimeters does not seem like anything that cannot be adjusted by seats / seat posts and stems. The 58 Rambo has a standover height of 82.1 versus 79.2 of my current bike. This seems do-able On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:28 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: > Sean, do you like bars at/above/below seat height? As long as it's > below or at, the smaller size should be fine. Then at worst you'll > have an extra 2cm of seat post and stem showing, along w/ a 2cm longer > stem. Everything else would be pretty much the same. If the 58cm ends > up being a bit too small, you would be able to re-sell it pretty > easily, and maybe even find a 60cm to trade straight over for. > > My $.02 > > On 10/13/13, Sean McAtee <seanm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Steve, thanks for the link to the geometry chart. Dan, I appreciate your > > input also. The way that I read the chart and Dan's comments, I am > > probably best on a 60. However, I don't know whether I am better off > being > > a bit big for a 58 or at the smallish end of a 60. The 58 Rambo > currently > > available on ebay is certainly attractive. I am really tempted to bid on > > that one, but I hate to end up with a bike that is too small for me. > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dan McNamara <djmcnam...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> I have a PBH of 84.5 and can ride my 58 Ram comfortably. I am 5'9". > >> > >> The stem is 6cm and there is about 9cm of seatpost showing (side of tube > >> to rail). > >> > >> Seems like a 60 Ram would be a better bet. Just double checked the > >> brochure and the 60 was recommended for PBH 87-89 and heights of > >> 5'9"-6'1". > >> > >> The 58 is 5'7"-5'11" and PBH 84-86. > >> > >> A call to Riv is probably your best bet. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> On Oct 13, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Sean McAtee <seanm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I do appreciate all of the comments. I don't anticipate riding much on > >> dirt - more long rides on the road. > >> > >> I am looking for some help with sizing - especially sizing a > Rambouillet. > >> Whenever I measure my PBH I end up somewhere between 86 and 87 (I'm > about > >> 5 > >> foot 11). I'm not sure whether I would do best on a 58 Rambo or a 60. > >> > >> Sean > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM, cyclotourist > >> <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Jack Browns, GB Cypres, or Challenge Eroica all do great on hard-pack > >>> dirt. None have slowed me down. > >>> > >>> On 10/13/13, Kieran J <kjo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > I'm on a tall Ram with the Jack Brown Greens, and the ride is > >>> > fabulous. > >>> I > >>> > use a small saddlebag, and sometimes add a Loafer bag on the Mark's > >>> Rack. I > >>> > > >>> > would recommend 700x30 or 32 (or 33.333333) with the Ram, as long as > >>> > you > >>> > are not planning on fenders. With Berthoud fenders, I struggled to > fit > >>> even > >>> > > >>> > a 28mm tire comfortably. > >>> > > >>> > Not sure what the fender clearance is for the San Marcos. > >>> > > >>> > KJ > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:29:09 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I have a 56cm Rambouillet and a 57 Bleriot and the Ram languishes > >>> >> while > >>> >> the Bleriot gets ridden. I love the ride and handling that the 38mm > >>> >> Parimoto 650b tires gives the Bleriot. The Ruffy Tuffy 28mm tires on > >>> the > >>> >> Ram just feel harsh and no faster to me. Also almost all of my rides > >>> >> involves some dirt roads even if I have to go seek them out, which I > >>> >> wouldn't do on 28s. > >>> >> > >>> >> OTOH I would not want a second top tube, but my size San Marcos > would > >>> be > >>> >> 650b and single top tube. Have you considered a used Bleriot? The > >>> frames > >>> >> were originally like $750 so might be quite a bargain used. > >>> >> > >>> >> I'm not selling the ramboulliet thoygh as its such a lovely bike in > >>> near > >>> >> perfect condition. When I get some extra dough I'm gonna try some > >>> >> Grand > >>> >> Bois Cypress 700 x 32, to see if I can get some extra cush and > speed. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:13:59 PM UTC-4, Big Paulie wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I'm going to break with the other posters, and go with the San > >>> >>> Marcos. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I'm 5'10'' with an 86.5 PBH, as measured by Grant. The 54 San > Marcos > >>> fits > >>> >>> > >>> >>> me perfectly, with an 11cm stem. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I've owned both the Rambouillet and the San Marcos, and I find the > >>> >>> San > >>> >>> Marcos to be a better handling bike, when ridden with no "extras" > >>> >>> like > >>> >>> fenders and baskets and bags. Dead solid neutral. The Rambouillet, > >>> >>> for > >>> >>> me, > >>> >>> was a touch twitchy. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Plus, the San Marcos is available pretty much "on demand." > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups > >>> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>> an > >>> > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> > To post to this group, send email to > >>> > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Cheers, > >>> David > >>> > >>> "it isn't a contest. 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