Clay,
It would be helpful to understand why & in what way your knees are "bum." 
 My sore knee pain, etc went away after a year or so of wearing "barefoot" 
running shoes, daily stretches, and general kindness to my lower 
extremities. YMMV

Here in New England, after years of often successful trial and error, I've 
settled on layering on cold days. (I agree with those who think cycling 
knees need covering below 65 degrees.
On the bottom, I like some combination of: patagonia capilene midweight 
long underwear (it comes in 4 weights, is stink resistant, is very durable, 
cleans and dries quickly & easily. I switched from wool -- fussier to 
clean, less durable.), nylon hiking pants or denim pants,  rainlegs for 
windbreaker (http://tinyurl.com/nhu3ovo).
L.


On Friday, October 4, 2013 11:55:35 AM UTC-4, Clayton wrote:
>
> I have bum knees and the cold is locking them up. I am looking for 
> recommendations for winter bicycling pants that are warm, water resistant, 
> wind proof and have a full set of pockets. I'd like them to look like 
> pants, not tights. Cheap would be nice. Right now, I have taken to wearing 
> ACE knee wraps around my jeans. Not very comfy, but they do leave 
> interesting wrinkles on my skin. I have been looking at softshell pants at 
> Columbia and REI, but the price kinda makes me choke. I am hoping someone 
> here has come up with an economical solution? Thanks in advance for your 
> collective wisdom.
> Clay
>

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