"Grip is limited." Schwalbe is comparing it to knobbies like the Racing Ralph. I can say from experience that the grip of the FFs is better than the grip of the BA on dirt -- not like a full knobby, but better than the BA. On pavement I can't tell any difference -- though my handling skills are poor.
An off road racing tire seems, to me, like a good possibility for a nice pavement/dirt touring tire, at least with Stan's. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote: > "But beware: Furious Fred is not an allrounder, its grip is limited > and risk of punctures is high." That's from Schwalbe's own literature! > I'm not looking for a racing tire; I'm looking for a touring tire. > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Bertin753 <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Anne-Forget the Big Apples. They are very nice tires, but IMO the > Furious Freds are worth the premium ($60 ea shipped from Wiggle). Add > Stan's if you need flat protection. > > > > As well as the BAs roll, the FFs roll even better-I think they roll as > well as the much narrower (35 mm) Kojaks; the FF 26ers would weigh about > the same as the Kojaks. > > > > Overall, and keeping in mind their intended use - off road tires that > roll well on pavement - I say these are the best tires I've ever used. > > > > Patrick Moore > > iPhone > > > > On Sep 7, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Eric, did you run the Big Apple 2.0s with fenders on the Atlantis? I'm > >> still wondering if they'd fit on my Atlantis. > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:47 PM, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote: > >>> At 225 pounds, and often carrying things on the bike, I find that > >>> anything less than 35mm is just too narrow for me. Funny, because a > >>> few years ago when I weighed 300 pounds, a Bianchi Volpe with Vittoria > >>> Randonneur 700x32 tires was just fine. > >>> > >>> Can tires be too big? With my limited experience it's bike > >>> dependent. My Sam Hillborne doesn't seem to like 700x40 Marathon > >>> Supremes as well as 700x35 Pasela TGs. However, with non-Rivendell > >>> bikes, the Salsa Fargo seems to be really happy with the WTB Vulpine > >>> 2.1s which I ride both on and off pavement. The only limitations > >>> there are the rider. > >>> > >>> For a bike such as the Surly LHT in the larger size with 26" wheels > >>> have discovered that two inch wide tires are pretty much a "sweet > >>> spot" in handling. For winter, 1.75s studded tires work, but the > >>> handling and ride characteristics are not as nice. > >>> > >>> When I had the Atlantis, the bike just loved Big Apple 2.0s. > >>> > >>> Eric Platt > >>> St. Paul, MN > >>> > >>> On Jan 28, 2:03 pm, Jan Heine <hein...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>> running 35-622 Vittoria Randonneur Pro's that measure > >>>> > >>>>> around 34 mm on my rims. The extra width didn't give me > significantly > >>>>> more comfort on pavement > >>>> > >>>> Talking about tire size makes sense only when comparing similar > >>>> casings. Given a choice between a harsh-riding 35 mm tire (like most > >>>> Schwalbes) and a 24 mm hand-made clincher like the now-gone Challenge > >>>> Triathlon, I'll prefer the racing tire any day. We have found that > >>>> casing and construction have a much greater effect on comfort and > >>>> performance than tire width. Once you compare apples to apples, the > >>>> wider tires obviously have more air and thus can run at lower > >>>> pressures without degrading performance or risking pinch-flats. > >>>> > >>>> If you live in a place with glass-smooth roads or ride on the track > >>>> mostly, you probably get very few benefits beyond 25 or 28 mm width. > >>>> However, there are few disadvantages until you reach about 42 mm (when > >>>> it becomes hard to make a bike with narrow crank tread/Q factor), so > >>>> why not go a bit wider, for the day when the road has been chipsealed > >>>> or you go on that trail where roots have pushed up the pavement? > >>>> > >>>> Of course, I live in Seattle, where the roads and trails are so bumpy > >>>> that even 32 mm tires feel awfully narrow. And then you have streetcar > >>>> and railroad tracks. Even if you know how to bunny-hop them, it's nice > >>>> not having to worry about them. > >>>> > >>>> Jan Heine > >>>> Editor > >>>> Bicycle Quarterly > >>>> > >>>> Follow our blog athttp://janheine.wordpress.com/ > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- Anne Paulson > >> > >> It isn't a contest. 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