Hi Jim,
Agreed on the Valgan... wow. Great attention to details on the build, too. 

>From the photostream, it's seat tube is 58.5 
c-c. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3609521375/in/set-72157602257150196
He also writes: the stand-over height (on 700Cx25mm tires) is a full 840 mm 
(33")

--shoji


On Monday, June 24, 2013 3:59:27 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
>
> Both of those are beautiful bikes, but the Vangal is, in my opinion, on an 
> entirely different order of beautiful. Any idea what it sold for new in the 
> '70's or what size it is?
>
> Jim D.        Massaachusetts
>
> On Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:45:28 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Here are links to Bob's Vangal "Chambord" (not "Champion").
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8120162907/in/set-72157602257150196/lightbox/
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483723440/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1482953579/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483728740/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3609521375/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>> The Sumitomo (gawd, that's a beautiful bike -- Riv content? A new 
>> standard or benchmark for Riv bikes, or simply excellentissimum 
>> workmanship).
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4040453738/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432593943/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1433458884/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1436932752/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3733531742/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8885631828/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432704299/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4039707011/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> triple the humidity and ride with us in S. Texas...but I like your 
>>> style.  We often opt for liquid bread at our halfway stops - chased with 
>>> much water, of course.  Wish you had your camera for the Vitus.  
>>>
>>> -- 
>>
>> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html
>> patric...@resumespecialties.com
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
>>
>>
>> Albuquerque, NM
>>  
>

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