Use whatever works. I have to disagree with Grant when he says that top tube length matters relatively little. One complaint I had about the Sam Hill was that the size 56 had a 59 cm tt which, for me, was quite a bit too long since my roads have a ~57 tt and even those require 8 cm stems. The only way to get comfortable on the SH was to have the bar quite a bit higher than I liked and I think that high bar -- 2-3" above saddle, IIRC (tho' I may NRRC) contributed to the poor feel while climbing seated.
One reason I like the Fargo -- in many respects an undistinguished bike, by my reference points -- is that it is a bike that can take (I think) 70s having a road-ish 57 cm effective tt. I was wholly tickled and pleased that the 58 cm Ram has the perfect 57 cm tt (with the shorter reach Noodle a wee bit higher than the bars on the other Rivs, I use a 9 cm stem). Patrick Moore, wondering whether "cotton to" has anything to do with gossypium or algodones, who just might ride to Algodones up the road toward Santa Fe. On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Michael <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dig this: > > Two of the Rivfolks communicated to me *as if they did not cotton* to > short stems on a bike, which is surprising since they are usually into > whatever makes you comfy. I was really surprised to even read a derisive > comment from one of them about the aesthetics of a short stem. I was > shocked!!! And *especially* from who's fingers the comment was typed! > > I love my Bleriot and Sam Hillborne but seems like their TT's are too > long for me, so I have needed to shorten the stems alot. I use a 7cm stem ( > and Noodles) on my Bleriot and a 6cm stem ( and 'staches for now) on my > Hillborne (apologies to the folks at Rivendell for me using short stems). > > All I can say was I was getting some major pain that lasted for many days > after even a shortish ride from my stock 8cm stem. The reach was too long > for me. Went to 6 with a stache and am now riding in comfort. My back and > neck like it so far. I will switch back to the Noodles eventually and see > if it is indeed the stem that did the trick or if it was the staches. > Either way - the stem gets me 2cm closer than before. The staches gets me > 4cm closer than the noodles in the hood area. So seems like my body was > insisting on a shorter reach. > > I guess we are more progressive then even the Rivendellians!! Let's pave > the future for comfort with our short stem extensions!!! > Congrats on finding a better stem extension. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
