I considered a Sam. I agree that it is much more handsome than the Marcos. 
But it is a little heavier than what I'm looking for. I already have 
(non-Riv) bike that fits the cargo and loaded touring bill. I'm looking for 
something with more zip, but short of a racing bike.

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:25:12 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

> Just get a Sam. There is only a 325$ difference between them for the 
>> frames. If you are gonna get a Riv-build, they are still only about 325 
>> different total for the complete bikes. Problem solved. You can get a Riv 
>> for the same price basically.
>> The Sam has a much prettier curve to the fork, and better paint job too. 
>> More eyelets, etc. Definitely worht waiting to save up 325 more bucks.
>>
>

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