Michael:

What may be happening is your body protesting a change that may not appear 
to be too radical but is a major change anyway.  

Assuming you had no pain problems on your old race bike set-up, I suggest 
taking one of your Rivendells and replicating that same set-up as closely 
as possible.  That's your baseline and what your body is used to.  You 
mention wanting to be a bit more upright.  Once you are back to where you 
started, gradually raise the bars, perhaps only 1/8" or so at a time.  It's 
amazing how our bodies protest radical changes, so take your time on this 
one.

As to aging, I started gradually raising my bars somewhere in my 40s.  I 
finally ended up with a MTB stem on my last race bike, with the bars about 
even with the seat.  That process took a few years.  When I got my 
Atlantis, I just set it up about like my old bike and have only made a few 
minor adjustments in the last 10 years.  

dougP

On Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:02:15 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>
> Wanted your thoughts and experience on this issue I have been having with 
> my Riv's. I know this sounds rediculous, but:
> *I am wondering if you had any trouble adapting from race geometry fit 
> bikes you were used to riding, to the more upright-like rivendell bikes and 
> how you got through it.*
>  
> Here is what I mean:
> I started on a race geometry bike and rode it for 3.5 years. I was only 
> about 1.5cm below saddle height with the drop bars. So it was nothing 
> extreme.
> Always comfy, but wished I could sit more upright for better view 
> sometimes. I wanted to sit higher, have more stable wider tires, and 
> fenderability. I like the traditional steel type frame looks and 
> appointments, too.
>  
> Now:
> Got a Bleriot last August, and a new Sam in Feb. 2013.
> They are great rides, and comfy during the rides, but since last September 
> I pay for it later in the day with low back pain, etc, that can last into 
> the next day.
> No matter what set up I try, I seem to have problems. Noodle drop versions 
> of the bikes.
> I am puzzled by this really wierd and frustrating experience. Am I just 
> getting old (44 now)? Medically I seem to be fine, and doc seems to think 
> my back is fine. More upright is supposed to be better for the back and 
> neck. Maybe sitting bolt upright, or sitting low is good for the back, but 
> anything between 40-80 degrees isn't for some?
>  
> *I can only imagine that my problem is that, for whatever reason, my body 
> just doesn't like to sit upright.* Seems like anything above saddle 
> height for the bars causes pain. But I am happy to have the wider tires and 
> fenderability features. Now if I could just dial in the fit.
> I guess I will try to replicate my race fit onto the Rivs and see how it 
> goes.
>  
> Any thoughts, experiences? Just losing my sanity?
>  
>  
> ** 
>

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