For the record, i have owned both a single TT AHH and the double TT Bombadil and didn't really notice any significant difference in "flex" or stiffness but I ride 56-59cm frames so maybe size has something to do with it, or maybe I am just a slob that doesnt notice these things, haha. I think the second TT is a unique addition and I like the way it looks but definitely understand it isn't every ones cup of tea. I just dont know about the actual function of it, and anyways I am reading constantly about how great this and that CF bike is because of how "stiff" it is, unless this is a different kind of stiffness?
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Bill Gibson <bill.bgib...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not hearsay, not conjecture! I wrote much of what Jan and tdusky said, and > I am sure Jim is right about the allure of being a little different in the > marketplace, but it does have a history and an engineering justification. > Not to mention an aesthetic justification. It's got a fine Dutch/Roadster > tradition, which Rivendell has been evolving for some time. Evolving both > toward the roadster style, and carrying the roadster style forward. > Rivendells are generally ridden a little faster than most roadsters, I'd > bet. > > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Isn't most of this here say and conjecture? Seems like some people like >> them and some don't but for people to preach on high like they are correct >> about stiffness and ride quality when those are both largely opinions thus >> far seems presumptive. Any actual empirical data on the issue of stiffness >> and ride quality would be one thing but this has gotten silly. >> On Feb 2, 2013 7:33 PM, "tdusky" <tdu...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Top tubes greatly stiffen the frame. Large people carrying heavy loads >>> on big bikes makes good sense. If any one of those qualifiers goes away you >>> have an unnecessarily stiff frame. Lively frames is where it's at for road >>> feel and ridding enjoyment (that why we ride steel frames). at 6" 1" and >>> 210 I do most of riding on a 63cm Long Low custom similar in geometry to >>> the Ramboulet, that's a solid but lively frame. I also ride a 64cm Atlantis >>> and I have used it for touring carrying 40+ pounds, it is solid as a rock. >>> I have a good friend I ride with all of the time who had a 69cm double top >>> tube Homer who was un happy with the ride, after trading it for a 67cm >>> frame it came to life and he loves it, keep in mind he is not a small man. >>> Double top tubes might look cool but seldom make sense. >>> Tom Dusky >>> Huntington Woods, MI >>> >>> On Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:52:22 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Something weird happened. I wasn't so big on the 2TT. Now for a month >>>> I've been riding my parallel TT, double TT Hunqapillar. >>>> >>>> I was home and walked by the single TT 60 cm Hillborne sitting in my >>>> entrance hall. As I walked by, I subconsciously thought, "something looks >>>> funny on that bike with it's big empty space in the main triangle and only >>>> one TT." >>>> >>>> Holy crap. I've crossed over. I like the following comment in the Staff >>>> Bikes section on the Rivendell site: >>>> >>>> Another generation-gappy thing: youngsters and old folks embrace the >>>> functionality of double sloping top tubes, yet crotchety middle agers still >>>> hold out. >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Bill Gibson > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
