Isn't most of this here say and conjecture? Seems like some people like
them and some don't but for people to preach on high like they are correct
about stiffness and ride quality when those are both largely opinions thus
far seems presumptive. Any actual empirical data on the issue of stiffness
and ride quality would be one thing but this has gotten silly.
On Feb 2, 2013 7:33 PM, "tdusky" <tdu...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Top tubes greatly stiffen the frame. Large people carrying heavy loads on
> big bikes makes good sense. If any one of those qualifiers goes away you
> have an unnecessarily stiff frame. Lively frames is where it's at for road
> feel and ridding enjoyment (that why we ride steel frames). at 6" 1" and
> 210 I do most of riding on a 63cm Long Low custom similar in geometry to
> the Ramboulet, that's a solid but lively frame. I also ride a 64cm Atlantis
> and I have used it for touring carrying 40+ pounds, it is solid as a rock.
> I have a good friend I ride with all of the time who had a 69cm double top
> tube Homer who was un happy with the ride, after trading it for a 67cm
> frame it came to life and he loves it, keep in mind he is not a small man.
> Double top tubes might look cool but seldom make sense.
> Tom Dusky
> Huntington Woods, MI
>
> On Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:52:22 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>> Something weird happened. I wasn't so big on the 2TT. Now for a month
>> I've been riding my parallel TT, double TT Hunqapillar.
>>
>> I was home and walked by the single TT 60 cm Hillborne sitting in my
>> entrance hall. As I walked by, I subconsciously thought, "something looks
>> funny on that bike with it's big empty space in the main triangle and only
>> one TT."
>>
>> Holy crap. I've crossed over. I like the following comment in the Staff
>> Bikes section on the Rivendell site:
>>
>> Another generation-gappy thing: youngsters and old folks embrace the
>> functionality of double sloping top tubes, yet crotchety middle agers still
>> hold out.
>>
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