Can't believe this thread is still open... Things like below will turn this 
ugly very quickly.  oops.. turned it ugly.

Kelly




On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:47:04 AM UTC-6, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> Steven,
>  I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean. Absolutism has 
> a place in our society. Let me give you some examples:
>
> I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the ability to 
> gain the tax and probate advantages they can get through marriage 
> regardless of their race, gender, religious beliefs or sexual orientation.
>
>  I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in our 
> society is a bigot and should be shunned.
>
> I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their own 
> bodies.
>
> I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own bodies is 
> Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished as such.
>
> Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm being 
> irrational, provided you can present logic as such. 
>
> -sv
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick 
> <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute
>> route so I just stopped in on the way to work.  I was not the first
>> person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person
>> come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded.
>>
>> There's no shortage of "irrational opinions," at the extremes of both
>> sides.  My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus
>> builders to move us forward and soon.  Absolutism has no place in a
>> democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every
>> time.  Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live
>> with are the very definition of "politic."
>>
>> Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
>>
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