Well, perhaps not quite Nirvana, but at least a spot on the
penultimate antechamber to the gate of the Earthly Paradise. It is
indeed very nice, nicer than I expected.

It has what for my uses (and I emphasize that qualification) are still
pecadillos that would still have to be sifted through the uppermost
levels of the purgatorial mountain: I would make the outside pockets
pouch pockets instead of slit pockets to reduce incursion into the
main compartment; the length of adjustment of the otherwise very
convenient snap buckles is finicky -- I think I'd prefer a standard
buckle and strap of some sort; I'd change the removable pocket on the
flap to an attached pouch (I remember years ago opining on a list that
the Nelson Longflap then first offered by Rivendell would benefit from
the addition of a small-item pocket on the flap); I'd add rings to the
top of the flap to match those at the bottom (meant for a support
strap) so that you could lash bulky things to the flap.

I fully realize that, for others' standards and preferences, the
design may already be fully sanctified and happily harp playing in
Elysium.

Now that we've exhausted *that* metaphor, I will add that there is
still much work to be done to improve saddlebag supports. Perhaps the
ideal would be to combine braze-ons with bag design so that you could
have a minimalist rack -- something like the Mark's but perhaps even
more minimal -- whose sole purpose would be to support the bottom
against two points on the seatstays. I agree that the new Bagman seems
to combine much of the worst of both rack and saddlebag worlds. But a
near second best might be to adapt the Nitto Grip for use with saddles
other than the Brooks (and to reduce the price: my own crude first
attempt indicates that such a device could be made rather cheaply. I
spent a total of less than $12 and that was at hardware store retail
prices (I include $5 for a Nashbar front allen key release).

For saddlebag and bike combinations that require under-bag support, I
don't see that it would be hard to devise  a rail-mounted grip that
incorporated an original-Bagman-like bottom support. The original
Bagman device had, IMO, an unecessarily complex and insufficiently
sturdy rail clamp.

I should think that you'd have ample gap between saddle and tire to
easily accomodate a Pendle without support?

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> Sounds like you've found saddlebag Nirvana!  Obviously, Grant has a
> lot of experience designing, and selling, saddlebags.  His description
> of the current model saddlebags reflects a good deal of pride:
> http://www.rivbike.com/Accessories-s/115.htm
>
> I'm still considering more actively using my Carradice Pendle
> saddlebag, which generally has languished in the top of a closet.
> It's a special model that was made for the now discontinued Heron
> Randonneur bike.  It's made in the traditional black canvas but has
> natural color leather straps rather than the white ones commonly
> available.  Todd Kuzma, the owner of the Heron bike operation, wanted
> the saddlebag to match the Berthoud handlebar bags that equipped his
> Randonneur bike.
>
> I'd still like to find a suitable carrier that supports the bag (on a
> large 65cm frame), without sagging.  The most suitable model seems to
> be the Carradice Bagman Q/R Sport model, which has unfortunately been
> replaced with a "New Improved!" model (MK2).  The latest model is only
> available in black finish (ugh...) and has some struts that attach to
> the seatstays, not my "cup of tea".
>
> Jim Cloud

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