Jim - 

Thanks for bringing topic #3 up, as it's been on my mind consistently, but 
sharing it has been delayed repeatedly.  (For some reason, my schedule for 
getting a "State of the List Report" to the List has been similar to GP's 
for publishing a Reader of late...)  Anyway, back when we had only 1300 or 
so members in this rag-tag gang, I did share a few thoughts about topics - 
which were archived yonder - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/listupdate/index.html

Short Version:
"On topic is good."

Also, a corollary axiom: 
"Take the position that every other post has been made with a smile behind 
it. If you can't do so - either when posting or reading - that's a 
particularly good time to take a break"

- J / Cyclofiend


- Jim


On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:43:18 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>  Jim,
>
> First off, thanks for everything you do to maintain a really great forum. 
> And thanks for all the many smart contributions from members. As a follow 
> up to what Jim wrote about the helmet conversation, I'd like to offer the 
> following suggestion.
>
>  
>
> Going back to when the forum began after Rivendell stopped running it, 
> the forum has been of extremely high quality for I believe three reasons:
>
>  
>
> 1) The moderation efforts of Jim E.
>
> 2) The intelligence of the members and applying that intelligence to the 
> discussions.
>
> 3) The very focused original definition of the forum.
>
>  
>
> To keep things very focused, I remember the forum being defined as a place 
> to discuss Rivendell products. I remember this definition being in contrast 
> to the BOB list where list volume is much greater, because there, they 
> discuss things that are "BOBish" which opens the door to many other arenas. 
> One of our strengths has been our focus on the products that Rivendell 
> sells.
>
>  
>
> With this in mind, I'd like to suggest that we consider that the mere 
> event of Grant mentioning a topic does not qualify that topic as being in 
> line with the definition of the forum. For example, his current blog shows 
> the unique sculpture in Chicago called The Bean. His mentioning of that 
> doesn't make it on-topic for this forum. On the other hand, if that same 
> blog speculates on some feature of a possible upcoming Rivendell product, 
> then that part is on-topic. Grant's mention of a helmet article would be in 
> the category of something the he finds interesting, and many of us might as 
> well, but is not within the scope of this forum.
>
>  
>
> Thanks for reading,
>
> Jim W.
>
>  
>
> p.s. This suggestion will do nothing to affect any future high trail/low 
> trail debates, because Riv sells forks! : )
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Bruce Herbitter 
> Sent: Oct 3, 2012 8:39 AM 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Been Thinkin'.... 
>
> so, changing topics, how's about a cyclofiend web page update? Seems like 
> the last current classic update was in Feb. Then we can all civilly debate 
> paint schemes, (Should HELMETS be painted to match your frame?) lugs vs 
> welded, etc... :)
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Lyle Bogart <lyleb...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Indeed, very nicely done! It is a curious thing that this topic can be so 
>> volatile. . . and it is a wonderful thing that the discussion did remain as 
>> civil as it did.
>>  
>> Thanks for all you do keeping the list going, Jim!
>>  
>> Cheers!
>>  
>> lyle
>>
>>  On 3 October 2012 01:26, Cyclofiend Jim <cyclo...@earthlink.net<javascript:>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> .... that if we feel the urge to have a helmet discussion, it needs to 
>>> be a new one.
>>>   
>>>
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