I really don't care if you chose to wear a helmet, as I've stated. It's your choice. If you feel that you're "forced to wear a helmet... because of social pressures", that's your problem. Please consider my initial statement, I don't care..
I'll continue to wear mine, end of subject. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Sep 30, 9:11 pm, "Benz, Sunnyvale, CA" <benzouy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Since you brought up efficacy, do you have a peer-reviewed article to cite > regarding this? No, a cracked helmet is not a demonstration of its > efficacy; prove to yourself by cracking one in your hand and noticing that > it takes very little force to do it. And no, a bicycle helmet is > fundamentally different in design and efficacy than motorcycle helmets. > > I'm essentially forced to wear a helmet most of the time even though I > don't believe in its claimed efficacy because of social pressures. I > believe helmets save scrapes and bruises but the amount of force it can > absorb is probably insignificant in a car-bike accident. Furthermore, I'm > old enough to not succumb to peer pressure. But I don't want to be > disadvantaged in any way if an accident happens (that a helmet may or may > not help) and I needed to recoup losses; I don't want to be assigned > partial blame and lose restitution simply because "everyone knows helmets > save lives". > > Despite the obvious, neurosurgeons are not experts in the analysis of force > and impact (these would be engineers), and they see a biased sample of > accidents that can skew their opinion. You wouldn't go to a neurosurgeon if > you just lightly bang your forehead, would you? > > Finally, this is not a pro- or anti-helmet post. Wear or don't wear a > helmet; that's entirely your choice and none of my business. But if you > going to claim this or that to support your stance, you should bring some > data along for the ride. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:15:35 PM UTC-7, Jim Cloud wrote: > > > Tucson is a "Bike Friendly Community" and has received a "Gold" level > > status from the League of American Bicyclists (LAB). This, obviously, > > didn't prevent the accident that was described in the article from > > occurring. > > > Frankly, I could care less if someone chooses to wear a helmet, but > > the justification for not wearing one shouldn't be couched in its > > efficacy in an accident situation. I think if anyone would like to > > consult their local neurosurgeons for a collective opinion that would > > probably be quite informative. > > > Jim Cloud > > Tucson, AZ > > > On Sep 30, 7:04 pm, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If you read the ny times article it touches on these kind of personal > > > stories. The issue is that without taking away the stigma of helmet use > > and > > > cyclists as being "the other" we will never get where Europe is. I fell > > > going 35mph and a helmet probably saved me from more harm than I got but > > > going down the side of a mountain is not riding to the grocery store. > > > Cyclists need to reach a critical mass where drivers and laws that favor > > a > > > car based society can make may for a bike friendly environment. Dropping > > > the "wear a helmet or die" mantra is part of this push as I see it. > > > On Sep 30, 2012 9:56 PM, "Jim Cloud" <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > Here's another article the group might find interesting: > > > > >http://azstarnet.com/news/local/josh-brodesky-my-brush-with-death-and... > > > > > Note that the street mentioned in this article, Mountain Avenue. is a > > > > specific bike thoroughfare with wide bike lanes and it's regularly > > > > traversed by many cyclists on a daily basis (especially while the > > > > University of Arizona is in session). > > > > > Jim Cloud > > > > Tucson, AZ > > > > > On Sep 30, 4:33 pm, Peter M <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sunday-review/to-encourage-biking-c... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
