So for the whole system, cassette, special hub and special
chainring/crankset you are over 1k? That is alot of outlay. Thats almost 3
full Alfine 11 hubs which each last for about 5 years of heavy use.
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting and doubtless silly-expensive. I'd like to know the proposed
> price of those one-piece cassettes. The idea is good, but I wish they'd put
> that R&D into cheaper, wider-range (500%+) and more efficient internal
> geared hubs instead of ever more complex and expensive -- and finicky?
> Don't know -- multi-cog drivetrains. ...Tho' of course hub gears are always
> more complex than any derailleur system; OTOH again, it's all inside a
> shell.
>
> I personally would like to steal the 42 and RD, but beyond that a 1X8 or 9
> would be ideal. Wonder if the rd would work with Silvers?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Tom M <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm really kind of intrigued by the 1x11. From what I've read, it's a
>> whole system — special front crankset with the teeth shaped so that no
>> chain catcher is required, and the RD is new as well, moving differently
>> than typical derailers. This link has some details:
>> http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/08/17/first-ride-impressions-and-tech-breakdown-of-the-new-1x11-sram-xx1-drivetrain/.
>> I've run a 1/7 setup before, but this has greater range and closer ratios.
>> But it's all way outside my price range, so it's either my single speed or
>> downtube shifters on my old road bike.
>> --Tom
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:42:11 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:
>>>
>>> I run an alfine on my bombadil and it is really nice not having to worry
>>> about dropping a chain or missing a gear, being able to shift at a light
>>> and not having to worry about the elements on the rear wheel. I know they
>>> have thier haters but I think when people give it a shot they seem to like
>>> them.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:18 PM, James Warren <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shifting gears while the bike is stopped and your feet are on the
>>>> ground is a nice benefit. Really helps a lot in traffic.
>>>>
>>>> And a straight chain path with no rear derailleur to run through is
>>>> nice as well.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, as Doug mentioned, there is the gear range issue. Rohloff
>>>> for sure and I believe Alfine 11 provide a broader range than 10-42 would.
>>>> But reason 1 is the biggest benefit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: Steve Palincsar <[email protected]>
>>>> >
>>>> >Why would a wide-range IGH be better than a single-chainring wide range
>>>> >derailleur bike?
>>>> >
>>>> >
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