Arkel makes this. http://www.arkel-od.com/us/all-categories/laptop-bicycle-pannier/utility-basket.html
I have 2 and like them a lot, very useful. On Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:05:49 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > > I've been tempted to play with the Donkey Boxx. > http://www.donkeyboxx.com/ > > On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:57:00 PM UTC-7, bwphoto wrote: >> >> I've been using a number of different things to do errands and grocery >> runs. Big runs, that involve stuff I don't have a way to carry on my Sam, >> are taken care of with my Burley flatbed trailer. For loads that will work >> on Sam I use two Minnehaha bags ( >> http://www.calhouncycle.com/productcart/pc/Canvas-Grocery-Bag-Pannier-93p1703.htm) >> >> they snap closed, have both shoulder strap and hand grab straps neither of >> which interfere with riding. INstead of shlepping a paper grocery bag out I >> just use the bags themselves in the same way I would use a reuseable >> grocery bag. >> >> The other bag I use is the Banjo Bro Market bag, which has a cover that >> snaps closed. It also folds flat against the rack and like the Minnehhem >> aha ones can be left on the bike. >> >> One caveat I've learned is that at 66 I can no longer easily swing my leg >> over anything higher than my saddle or wider than my leg will extend...not >> to long ago I used to be able swing wither leg easily over whatever I had >> back or front. >> >> Ecovelo.net has some good reviews of both. >> >> On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:12:22 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> 1. Cheapest *decent* hanging scale with capacity of at least 40 lb. I >>> know Park makes an electric one for $60, but I would be quite happy with a >>> mechanical model if cheaper. (I want to find out how heavy my Fargo is.) >>> (Seriously, I like to weigh my grocery loads -- just 'cause.) >>> >>> 2. Prest-cum-Schrader replacement pump chuck. In a fit of >>> brass-and-Silca-lust folly I cut the very decent one-chuck-for-both head >>> off my pump to replace with a nice (looking) brass screw on Schraeder chuck >>> that I thought might work better on my daughter's Schrader valves -- which >>> it does, but screwing on the chuck is a royal arse pain especially when I >>> have to use a Presta adaptor for my own bikes. >>> >>> 3. Bar tape. I've found my own current favorite but am curious what >>> others think. I like the Lizard Skins 2.5 (I think it is also made in 1.8 >>> and a thicker one whose measurement I don't have). >>> >>> 4. Grocery pannier. Here I have certain criteria to meet: >>> - Easy on and off the rack. >>> - Can be used singly or as a pair. >>> - Secure on the rack >>> - Holds a full-to-top paper grocery sack. >>> - Has either a cover that will accomodate overflow, or else has loops to >>> which one can attach a cargo net. >>> - It is easy to insert a bulging-ly full grocery sack. (This criterion >>> puts my otherwise wonderful Ortlieb Packers out of the running because of >>> the (for this use) fiddly and obstructive flap and drawstrings.) >>> - Universal fit on many different kinds of rack. >>> - Stiffener on back if not on sides (all-cloth panniers tend in my >>> experience to end up in the spokes with certain simpler racks). >>> >>> Of course, cost and durability are part of the equation. >>> >>> No Wald baskets! No saddlebags! Saddlebags, even the huge Hoss, don't >>> hold enough, so I prefer panniers which I can mix and match as required. I >>> realize that the easiest and capacious grocery carrier in the universe is a >>> huge Wald Newsboy, but I don't have a bike that I'd care to add one of >>> these to. >>> >>> I've used several different sorts of camping panniers, many different >>> commuting panniers, Avenir grocery panniers (currently in use), Gnashbar >>> grocery pannier, Axiom Dutch (style) boxy panniers, rear Wald baskets (too >>> damn' narrow!), Carradice panniers and just about all Brooks and many other >>> saddlebags out there. I want something that is pretty much designed for >>> full paper grocery sacks. >>> >>> For convenience, the Avenirs are good though they are not stiff enough >>> to be ideal. They are also too shallow and have no cover nor provision for >>> a cargo net. Good only for short trips and you have to make sure you don't >>> pack small, loose things on top. The folding arrangement is primitive, but >>> they do fold when not full, which is a plus. >>> >>> The Axioms, in stock form, sagged too much under any load and the lip >>> of the opening deformed under weight. I had to rivet a collar of aluminum >>> strip around the mouths to stiffen them. Thus modified they are much better >>> but the mouths are still a bit too narrow for easy insertion and removal of >>> very full bags. >>> >>> Frankly, when cost is a large factor, I've used nothing more convenient >>> than the drape-over-rack pair of Target kitchen trashcans that I joined >>> with pop rivets, dowels and nylon webbing. Wider at top, deep, so that it >>> is easy to insert and securely carry even an overflowing bag. Certainly >>> sturdy enough if you reinforce all weight-bearing points with big washers >>> or thin plywood or sheet metal. Easy on and off, since they drape, and a >>> single toe strap holds them securely fore-and-aft. And the total cost >>> (trashcans on sale) was no more than $12. IMO, these are better than milk >>> crates or used cat litter boxes. You can also plaster all sorts of >>> reflective material on the backs and even bolt blinkies permanently to them. >>> >>> Their big defect of course is that they look ineffably dorky. But I can >>> see a plastic (not kitchen white!) bin-type pannier optimally sized and >>> shaped, suitably reinforced at stress points, and with adjustable, QR >>> mounting system a la Carradice or Ortlieb, and cargo net top -- does anyone >>> make anything like this? >>> >>> Patrick "Riv + luggage" Moore >>> >>> -- >>> "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >>> -- Claude Cockburn >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >>> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >>> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >>> ------------------------- >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xX0l_arhky0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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