The threaded-threadless converter quills are a solution to bar/stem 
compatibility issues in theory, but usually they're pretty short, which 
makes for very limited upward height adjustability. Maybe some are taller 
than others? I doubt any have a 200-ish mm quill like a taller Nitto quill 
stem, but I'm not super knowledgeable about these.

More threadless bikes are coming with uncut forks now, which is nice. A lot 
of times manufacturers cut them too short, or the bike mechanic who 
assembles it cuts it too short, and then you're stuck (unless you get a new 
uncut fork or one of those extenders). But if the steerer is long enough, 
say 100-150 mm over the top of the top tube (which may be slightly 
upsloping for even more height), you've got a lot of usable room for 
adjustment of handlebar height. My Curt Goodrich custom has a smart 
approach. The headtube extends approx 45 mm above the top of the top tube, 
which upslopes slightly (but less than a Hillborne). Add another 10 or so 
mm for headset cup, and, 25-40 mm in spacers along with the stem, and I get 
the bars at or above saddle height with +/- 20 mm adjustability without the 
super tall stack of spacers that may be considered unsightly by some. It 
looks good to me, and gives me all the threadless benefits without looking 
awkward or having the bars too low.

On Friday, September 7, 2012 12:14:01 PM UTC-5, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Dan Abelson <d...@abelsons.net<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > I am with Jim on the threadless headsets. I have two rivs that I love 
> but if 
> > I could change one thing it would be to go threadless. It would offer a 
> much 
> > wider variety of handlebar choices, I find it easier to adjust the 
> headset, 
> > and it is stiffer, and more headsets are available, and I like being 
> able to 
> > remove the bars without unwrapping the tape. 
> > 
>
> Wider variety of handlebar choices? quill stems don't limit you there. 
>
> Get one of the nitto or VO threaded->threadless quills and then use 
> whatever you want. 
>
> Then you get selection of handlebars, poptop stems AND you can move up 
> and down as much as you want. 
>
> That's the versatility of threaded, imo. You can't do that with 
> threadless, you're just stuck. 
>
> -sv 
>

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