I ride nominal 23s at about 85/95 at 175. My brother, as I said -- this weekend I he had his new Sequoia with scavenged Schwalbe Duremes, 23 actual, and he's not careful about checking his tires. His RB1 is taken on dirt with nothing more than 25s -- will have to ask if they are in fact 23s. And he too has a vast experience of tires. I don't feel every bump; perhaps the long Rivendell wheelbase helps; my brother does not complain either. More: I have to reduce the 32 mm Kojaks (35s on the Fargo) to 50/55 before they become significatly more comfortable than the Pro Race 3s or the Turbos or the Contis. Note too that these tires are 559 and 571, thus more liable to cracks than arger 622s.
Nor do I get pinch flats; I wonder at those who do. The only time in the last -- since I can remember that I've pinched is when I rode into a litter of heavy, large gravel tat speed to see what would happen. Note too that I know fat and soft: I routinely run my 60 mm Big Apples at sub 15/sub 20 -- on pavement. Riding light? I don't try, but perhaps it is second nature. Are our roads in NM exceptionally good? Ryan? Upshot: I don't get people who think narrows are horribly uncomfortable or those who think all users pump them rock hard. Anyone is welcome to try my gofast with Michel Pro Race 3s. I bought those because they were on sale; yes, I'd prefer the 25s but didn't see them advertised -- 650 c. But I've ridden 559 Turbos and 571 Contis for years. I commuted on the 22-actual Turbos. I don't bounce. I recognized the strangely cushy ride of Turbos back, oh, circal 1989 -- 90 when I compared them with 1.25" Fatboys inflated to the sidewell pressure -- yes, stupid, I know, but as I say, I have to ride 32/35 Kojacks at sub 60 to feel smoother. I have absolutely no desire to jam like the pros -- would such a poser ride one of my Rivendell fixies? Nuance, my friends, nuance: reality is nuanced. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 11:45 -0700, Brewster Fong wrote: >> >> Agree, I know guys who are in the 140-200+lb range that use 700x23 @ >> 120psi. I'm thinking they're feeling every crack, bump and divot on >> the road! Further, they got to be bouncing up and down with that much >> psi. Still, they "love it," as they think they're jamming up and down >> the road just like the pros! Funny thing is I'm either with them or >> right behind them with my 25s @ 80psi....and btw, I'm riding very >> comfortably too! > > I won't argue that a 23mm tire at 120 psi is superior to a 25mm at 80 or > 80. That would be silly. > > However, I did use Michelin 23mm tires @ 120 psi, weighing 200 lb, for > at least 10 years on my Ti Spectrum. I started with the Supercomp HD > and stayed with the top line tire as it changed names over the years. > They were quite comfortable, and no bouncing up and down. That only > happens when you use high pressure and are light weight. With 0.1 tons > of road hugging weight pressing down mashing you to the road, especially > on a supple tire, you do retain good contact with the pavement. Of > course, that Spectrum /is/ titanium, and it is a very flexible frame. > > Although, if you really want to experience some serious hammering, > inflate your 25s up to 120 and go ride a rough road. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
