I own a Calfee Luna Pro. I bought the frameset used at a very low price, otherwise I would not have bought it. It has a mix of DuraAce and Ultegra. The rims, bars, stem and seatpost are alloy, not carbon, and I run 28mm tires, so it's not as light as it could be (same could be said for me). I have the cockpit set up about the same as my Legolas, which means the bars are at or a little above saddle height.
The Calfee handles as well as any bike I've ridden, as does the Legolas. On both I can rail fast downhill corners with confidence. The Calfee is a little lighter than the Legolas, and I notice the difference especially during acceleration. Is it an advantage? I don't race so, no, it's not an advantage. It's a heckuva lot of fun to ride, though. Which would I take on a road century? Probably the Calfee. Which would I take on a mixed-terrain ride? No question, the Legolas. And though the Calfee takes 28mm tires (wide compared to many cf bikes), the Legolas will take 40's. happy trails jim m wc ca On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:10 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I forgot to include: has anyone ridden a CF bike that handles much > like Rivendells, as described below? If so, are there any advantages > to the CF bike over Rivendells? We know there are certainly > disadvantages. > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:08 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Kelly: thanks, very interesting comparison. My own experience of > > Rivendells' handling -- including that of the Sam HIll, which I > > didn't, overall, like well enough to keep -- is exactly this supremely > > confident, fast cornering combined with an almost "intuitive" > > (cliche', I know) willingness to go where you want them to. And your > > remarks about the CF ride supports what others say: that unless you > > are going to ride them very agressively, they are not really > > rewarding. > > > > Patrick "wish I could average 22 mph over 160 miles" Moore > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Kelly <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Patrick > >> > >> I road high end cf for ten years. Aggressive setup .. Mavic carbone > wheels etc... > >> My routine was 1000 miles early in season to get neck arms and arse > ready and to be comfy. > >> Wasn't very comfortable for first 500 or so. > >> > >> Was a sweet ride at 65 mph coming down off veil pass. Had nice high > end wobble on one frame in turn at just over 55 mph in Boulder ... Road > RAIN 160 miles one way one day on it..seemed nice and finished just over 22 > mph average. > >> > >> Road average of 10 to 12 centuries per year. > >> > >> I would avoid many roads as they were to rough ... Hated concrete > roads, and had numerous flats tooling around town. Broke axles, > handlebars, seat posts, and frame.. Then had to replace a frame after > impact on roof rack. Manufacter indicated it could last forever or fail > thus said not to ride it. > >> > >> Fast sprint bike and great for the 30 mile rides... > >> > >> I was always looking to get the ride over with. Never got on the bike > to meander through the park. Burned out on going all out all the time .. > It was fun for a long time.... So was my two seater Jensen Healy ... But > just as I'll never go back to the Jenson, I'll also never be stuck with > just a cf bike. Today I get on my bike for short rides turned long... Long > rides turned short.. On just about any clothing and the roads I though were > rough are actually pretty smooth. > >> > >> My AHH may be slower, and I miss some of the sprints, and even the bar > to bar shoulder to shoulder banging all out major crash waiting to happen > riding... On occasion .. > >> Until I get on that sweet quick, smooth, fast downhill corner hugging > AHH. And I don't need all those miles to be comfy.. Just get on the thing. > >> > >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5155759637/in/set-72157625210417815 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:28:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > >>> > http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/brookline/2012/08/on_biking_just_ride_urges_less.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 8/15. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> "Petersen says professional bike racing has corrupted a beautiful > >>> > >>> thing." -- There is some truth to that, with racing driving recent > >>> > >>> hyperactive hard-sell marketing, but man, old, steel racing bikes from > >>> > >>> the '60s through the early '80s? Some of those were wonderful bikes! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Can you ride a modern carbon fiber bike in other than full race mode? > >>> > >>> In other words: I've read several reviews of CF race bikes that > >>> > >>> describe them as unrewarding to ride except at high power. Are all CF > >>> > >>> racing bikes -- or, tout court, bikes -- like this? (I realize that > >>> > >>> that is a matter of design, no material.) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Does anyone ride and really like a CF bike? I'd be curious to learn > >>> > >>> about it: make, model, setup, ride qualities -- handling, comfort, > >>> > >>> acceleration and so forth. I do know they are fun to heft -- remember > >>> > >>> hefting a ~12 lb Calfee fixie! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Flannery O'Connor > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------- > >>> > >>> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > >>> > >>> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > >>> > >>> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > >>> > >>> ------------------------- > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oG4tKfxT6ZUJ. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." > > -- Claude Cockburn > > > > ------------------------- > > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > > ------------------------- > > > > -- > "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." > -- Claude Cockburn > > ------------------------- > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > ------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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