Kelly: thanks, very interesting comparison. My own experience of Rivendells' handling -- including that of the Sam HIll, which I didn't, overall, like well enough to keep -- is exactly this supremely confident, fast cornering combined with an almost "intuitive" (cliche', I know) willingness to go where you want them to. And your remarks about the CF ride supports what others say: that unless you are going to ride them very agressively, they are not really rewarding.
Patrick "wish I could average 22 mph over 160 miles" Moore On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Kelly <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote: > Patrick > > I road high end cf for ten years. Aggressive setup .. Mavic carbone wheels > etc... > My routine was 1000 miles early in season to get neck arms and arse ready and > to be comfy. > Wasn't very comfortable for first 500 or so. > > Was a sweet ride at 65 mph coming down off veil pass. Had nice high end > wobble on one frame in turn at just over 55 mph in Boulder ... Road RAIN 160 > miles one way one day on it..seemed nice and finished just over 22 mph > average. > > Road average of 10 to 12 centuries per year. > > I would avoid many roads as they were to rough ... Hated concrete roads, and > had numerous flats tooling around town. Broke axles, handlebars, seat posts, > and frame.. Then had to replace a frame after impact on roof rack. > Manufacter indicated it could last forever or fail thus said not to ride it. > > Fast sprint bike and great for the 30 mile rides... > > I was always looking to get the ride over with. Never got on the bike to > meander through the park. Burned out on going all out all the time .. It was > fun for a long time.... So was my two seater Jensen Healy ... But just as > I'll never go back to the Jenson, I'll also never be stuck with just a cf > bike. Today I get on my bike for short rides turned long... Long rides > turned short.. On just about any clothing and the roads I though were rough > are actually pretty smooth. > > My AHH may be slower, and I miss some of the sprints, and even the bar to bar > shoulder to shoulder banging all out major crash waiting to happen riding... > On occasion .. > Until I get on that sweet quick, smooth, fast downhill corner hugging AHH. > And I don't need all those miles to be comfy.. Just get on the thing. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5155759637/in/set-72157625210417815 > > > > > On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:28:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/brookline/2012/08/on_biking_just_ride_urges_less.html >> >> >> >> 8/15. >> >> >> >> "Petersen says professional bike racing has corrupted a beautiful >> >> thing." -- There is some truth to that, with racing driving recent >> >> hyperactive hard-sell marketing, but man, old, steel racing bikes from >> >> the '60s through the early '80s? Some of those were wonderful bikes! >> >> >> >> Can you ride a modern carbon fiber bike in other than full race mode? >> >> In other words: I've read several reviews of CF race bikes that >> >> describe them as unrewarding to ride except at high power. Are all CF >> >> racing bikes -- or, tout court, bikes -- like this? (I realize that >> >> that is a matter of design, no material.) >> >> >> >> Does anyone ride and really like a CF bike? I'd be curious to learn >> >> about it: make, model, setup, ride qualities -- handling, comfort, >> >> acceleration and so forth. I do know they are fun to heft -- remember >> >> hefting a ~12 lb Calfee fixie! >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." >> >> >> >> Flannery O'Connor >> >> >> >> ------------------------- >> >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >> >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> >> ------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oG4tKfxT6ZUJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
