I built a Karate Monkey as a drop bar, disk-braked (BB-7), all-weather 
commuter and will occasionally suffer some pad drag that plays the high 
spots of any nominal wobble of the rotating rotors. Will resolve after some 
lesser force applications of the brakes, probably starting to get a bit 
reluctant to respond to the recoil spring that retracts the moving pad. 
Mine is growing some collective recalcitrance beyond cable drag in this 
function, I've probably exceeded the design life with the amount of 
environmental exposure to which I've subjected these great little brakes. 
This bike started as an experiment that could be terminated on a frame that 
could have cantilevers installed the day I soured on the disks. 

 I chose the biggest disk diameter (185mm at the time) so that there was 
more swept area and more material across which to share any necessary 
truing or tuning. In my mind truing smaller diameter rotors seemed more 
likely to get out of hand quicker as any any adjustment to effect change of 
a dimension at the braking surface would require a greater angle to be 
formed compared to larger diameters. Seemed like a way to avoid replacing 
rotors more often. 

Mine are at the six year mark and I am likely to replace the calipers 
themselves (or pen a whole new commuter project) before the rotors due to 
accumulated degradation of all exposed surfaces and mechanisms. I 
completely get the non-Riv argument about disks but after my ride last 
Sunday at the annual Pedal Pittsburgh long loop where the final 15 miles 
were logged climbing up onto Mt. Washington then across the ridge line it 
creates via drops down into neighborhoods then back up to the crest with a 
finale of a four mile descent through the forests of Glass Run, all in a 
pouring down heavy rain. My Rambouillet ate a complete set of brake blocks 
over the course and those rim brakes, bathed in the volume of water we rode 
in, were nearly to zero effectiveness. Thank goodness for familiarity of 
the roads and frequent communication with others to keep things from 
becoming too much of a scare. The discs in the group functioned remarkably 
and those riders were amazed by how flustered others were over wet rim 
braking.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh, PA

On Thursday, August 9, 2012 6:31:44 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I say "not too off topic" since the brakes in question are on the 
> Fargo which is quite Rivendellianishly (gad, how's that for a cobbled 
> together adverb? Rivishly?) set up and, moreover, the disks are really 
> the only brakes that will allow quick wheel changes between 27 mm rims 
> and 44 mm rims. 
>
> Anyway: The front Avid BB7 rotor has been bent and rebent and is now 
> rather wavy and just barely nicks the pads as it goes by -- so 
> slightly that feathering the brake will stop it for a half mile or so; 
> but it comes back. I don't want to back off the pads any further. Does 
> anyone have any instructions or can anyone point me to instructions on 
> the web for getting a slightly wavy disk (160 mm) back into plane? 
>
> The exactly similar disk on the Kojak wheelset is centered fine, as 
> are both rears. 
>
> The "shish-shish-shish" sound was rather annoying just now on my afternoon 
> ride. 
>
> Thanks. 
>
> -- 
> "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." 
>
> Flannery O'Connor 
>
> ------------------------- 
> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA 
> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW 
> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html 
> ------------------------- 
>

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