> Finally, on the linked comments section, Jan says he likes the Hilsen for 
> what it is, ...

But I don't think Jan knows what a Hilsen is. I am also skeptical
about his notions regarding oversized main triangle tubes.

I have an old Gios race bike that has what I think Jan calls thin
tubes. I also have a AHH with, of course, oversized tubes.
If I was going on a hard ride with a race club, or doing a criterium,
I would ride (and have ridden) the Gios. But thats not because the
Hillsen lacks "performance" if we are using that as short hand for
easy to go fast on. I just love the way the Gios handles when riding
in a pack.
I very much doubt that the Hillsen is slower than the Gios, unless of
course those GB cerf tires I have on it aren't all they'r cracked up
to be (As best I can tell they are).

Despite all his talk of experimental basis and evolving views he
frequently strikes me as rather dogmatic, and prone to leaping to
conclusions.


On Aug 6, 11:44 am, Matthew J <matthewj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And Richard also failed to note the race bike riding PBP speedsters also 
> skirt the rules.  Many have support staff at the various rest stops with 
> food, water bottle changes, change of clothes, etc.  Jan is promoting a vike 
> for people who actually rando the ways the rules intend - unsupported.  
> Everything you need for 1200k is on the bike at the start.
>
> As for tires, Jan did not say large tires are faster. Rather he said on most 
> road conditions well made tires wider than the average race clinchers have 
> lower rolling resistance.  And in fact, the width of race tires is increasing.
>
> Finally, on the linked comments section, Jan says he likes the Hilsen for 
> what it is, but he does not think it would be the best choice of bikes to go 
> out riding with a group of people with thin tube lbikes optimized for going 
> fast.  I doubt GP would argue the point.

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