Hirsch's claim is that the calories were measured as calories burned per 
unit of lean body mass. This may or may not be documented in the paper. 
Given that it's not a direct quote - I doubt it. Having read Good Calories 
Bad Calories, I suspect the calories were measured as calories burned per 
unit of body mass (Taubes' books are impeccably researched). Hirsch appears 
to be claiming that people on a high protein diet burn more calories by 
virtue of an increase in fluid processing in the kidneys. Based on my 
reading of nutrition and medical literature, this is true. Increased 
protein in the diet usually leads to increased work for the kidneys.

This ignores the point that calorie expenditures were higher in the low 
carb diets. This includes the diet that was between the Atkins diet and the 
high carb/low fat diet. I think the trend is the most interesting part of 
this study. Regarding the part about selling diet books - keep in mind that 
Good Calories Bad Calories is an in-depth study of medicine, nutrition and 
history as it relates to weight gain/loss and disease. Taubes only mentions 
a recommended diet as an afterthought.

I think you could make much more of a case for "Why We Get Fat, And What To 
Do About It" being a diet book. Personally, I have spent years riding my 
bikes, running, and riding a Stairmaster. I always wondered how I could 
finish an incredibly intense workout lasting an hour or more, come home - 
eat a bowl of pasta and weigh more - until I read Good Calories Bad 
Calories.

Corwin

On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:18:42 PM UTC-7, Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
> This was an interesting article and I imagine that it'll have the Taubes 
> fans up in arms. This guy speaks very authoritatively when it comes to 
> efficient ways of losing weight. I kind of find this frustrating because 
> the article alludes to his credibility given that he's been studying 
> obesity for 60 years. With that said, I find it interesting that Hirsch 
> mediated a study where he manipulated calorie compositions in his subjects. 
> It would seem that this directly contradicts what Taubes has highlighted in 
> Good Calories, Bad Calories. 
>
> I would like to know more about Hirsch's claim that *low carb/high fat*diets 
> have something to do with water weight loss. In the Taubes books, I 
> remember him very clearly describing how correctly dieting will 
> regulate/correct adipose deposit levels, but I vaguely remember anything 
> about water weight loss. Anybody else not buying what Hirsch has to say??
>
> On Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:16:09 PM UTC-7, Solomander wrote:
>>
>> OTOH..
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/health/nutrition/q-and-a-are-high-protein-low-carb-diets-effective.html?smid=FB-nytimes&WT.mc_id=HL-E-FB-SM-LIN-IDM-071212-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=click
>>
>> Jules Hirsch is a smart guy.
>>
>

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