It's not at all clear to me why he thinks a custom Rivendell Road frame would be appreciably lighter than a production Riv. You either want a Rivendell design or you don't. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:56:52 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Maybe it's time to give up on him, tell him what he wants is a top of > the line Domane with carbon wheels and tubular tires, and he should stop > wasting his time looking at heavy old steel bikes. > > On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 16:01 -0700, ted wrote: > > If he wants to try an alternative to the weight weeny race rigs, he > > should probably ease up on the frame weight goal. > > You also might point out that the frame and fork are probably about > > 1/4th (or less) of the total bike weight. > > To say an AHH is too heavy because of the frame overlooks the large > > roll components play in the all up weight of a bike. > > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 8:55 pm, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I hear you Joe, I tried to sell him the 54 AHH but he kept saying it > > was > > > too heavy, he is a good friend but this whole heavy vs light > > argument does > > > get old so looking for him to take the plunge and get a nice > > practical > > > ride. He does have an older Peugeot PX10 we could convert but with > > its > > > 'racing" geometry it wont be nearly as comfortable as a nice AHH. > > Maybe a > > > decent place to start though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Your friend needs to be disabused of the notion that the AHH is > > not a road > > > > bike. My Romulus was a pure 700c road bike like that Ebay Riv, and > > my AHH > > > > rode like the Romulus. Hilsen can be used for medium-load touring > > and > > > > gravel treks, but it is not a touring bike. It's a 650b road bike. > > > > > > > Joe Bernard > > > > Vallejo, CA. > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:23:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > > > > > > >> Good points, issue is my friend is coming out of the cold of pure > > > >> roadieism and although he has shed his praise of 23mm tires he > > still thinks > > > >> of anything not made Columbus Zona or whatnot "heavy", while > > wanting > > > >> simultanously to jump on the "650b Bandwagon." > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mmCN6yaIjioJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.