Peter, I have an ~1980 Gios race bike that I like a lot and is about as light as steel bikes get (light frame, light parts). Love that bike. Thanks to you, I also have a lovely 56 AHH currently sporting GB Cypres tires on velocity budget riv wheels. Love that bike too. Now the AHH is certainly perceptibly heavier than the Gios when I pick them up, but it feels quite light when I ride it. If he really wants to give something different than his race rig a try, he has missed a great opportunity by passing on your AHH. I think your friend could benefit from getting clear in his own mind what he really wants. Has he looked at how heavy those Hetre's and the big ol tubes that go in them are (tongue partly in cheek)? If he wants to try an alternative to the weight weeny race rigs, he should probably ease up on the frame weight goal. You also might point out that the frame and fork are probably about 1/4th (or less) of the total bike weight. To say an AHH is too heavy because of the frame overlooks the large roll components play in the all up weight of a bike.
On Jul 10, 8:55 pm, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hear you Joe, I tried to sell him the 54 AHH but he kept saying it was > too heavy, he is a good friend but this whole heavy vs light argument does > get old so looking for him to take the plunge and get a nice practical > ride. He does have an older Peugeot PX10 we could convert but with its > 'racing" geometry it wont be nearly as comfortable as a nice AHH. Maybe a > decent place to start though. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Your friend needs to be disabused of the notion that the AHH is not a road > > bike. My Romulus was a pure 700c road bike like that Ebay Riv, and my AHH > > rode like the Romulus. Hilsen can be used for medium-load touring and > > gravel treks, but it is not a touring bike. It's a 650b road bike. > > > Joe Bernard > > Vallejo, CA. > > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:23:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > > >> Good points, issue is my friend is coming out of the cold of pure > >> roadieism and although he has shed his praise of 23mm tires he still thinks > >> of anything not made Columbus Zona or whatnot "heavy", while wanting > >> simultanously to jump on the "650b Bandwagon." He did ride the AHH I had > >> and loved it so I think I just need to turn the screws a bit tighter. I am > >> tired of carrying around his stuff since his CF rig has no capacity at all > >> and is really only good for going fast over smooth pavement in perfect > >> weather, haha. > > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:16 PM, cyclotourist > >> <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >>> I don't think any Rivendells have ever had less than 70mm of drop. > >>> Unless it was a very custom-custom, plan on 70, and don't be surprised to > >>> have it be 72 or 73. That's on the edge of 650b compatibility. The 750s > >>> should work fine and I see a cable hanger in the front, but Tektro 559s > >>> would be perfect as well. Fitting Hetres would would just be a guess... > >>> maybe, maybe not. It's going to be a chunk of change for a guess if you > >>> can't confirm measurements from the seller. > > >>> I'd recommend getting a 650B AHH and build it up super-light if that's > >>> what he wants. It could be as "roadie" as he can afford! :-) > > >>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Peter M <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >>>> So a friend of mine (seriously, not me!) wants to know if this custom > >>>> on ebay will take a 650b/hetre conversion. I am not too familiar with > >>>> these older Rivs so thought I would ask if anyone here has done this > >>>> kind of thing. I would think the Dia-compe Mod 750s would get you the > >>>> reach but again, will the bb drop be too much and will it even fit the > >>>> Hetres or is this guy dreaming? He really wants a 650b/Hetre bike but > >>>> wants something more roady than the AHH/SH since he is only 135lbs. > >>>> Just spitballing here, thanks all. 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