I installed the Silvers on my Velo Orange rando bike and have been very 
unhappy with their performance. There are two basic problems.

First, I experienced phantom shifting of the FD. The shifter cannot hold 
the FD in place in the middle ring (on a Sugino triple). Instead, after a 
short time, it will drop to the inner ring. This occurred over and over on 
my recent 400K brevet and I was NOT happy, as I was always going up a hill 
at the time. I am using a modern DA FD, so perhaps the spring tension is 
too high for the shifter. But it is the FD that I have available. If there 
are any specific models of older FDs that would alleviate this condition, 
please send along this information, along with any suggestions for sources. 

The other problem is just as bad. The shifter will not shift a 9-speed 
Shimano cassette very effectively. You think you have nailed it, then the 
chain jumps one way or the other. It's like the micro-clicks simply cannot 
position the chain close enough to the center of the cassette for some 
gears. So there was a lot of chain hopping going on back there. After a 
while I just stopped shifting sometimes and just stood on the pedals. 

Bottom line, I will remove these and go back to Shimano. 9-speed BES have 
worked well for me in the past, but I did not want to route the cables 
along the handlebar in order to avoid the front bag I am using, so I 
initially tried DA 9-speed DT shifters, but the rear one felt a little 
loose, and lined up funny with the left one (so I thought), but now I have 
little choice but to go with one of these or the other.

Another option would be to go back to a 7/8 speed cassette, perhaps the 
Silvers work well with those. But there is still the FD problem....

Eric Peterson
Naperville, IL

On Monday, July 2, 2012 10:24:10 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
>
> So I've been using Silver shifters for a few years now and overall like 
> them a lot with one exception. When I mount them on the DT on my 63cm 
> Hilsen or 63cm randonneuring bike, the front shifter slips when standing on 
> the pedals during a hard effort such as going over rollers causing the FD 
> cage to rub on the chain. This was exceptionally annoying last week during 
> the Cascade 1200k. 
>
> I've had the problem to a lesser degree when the shifters are mounted on 
> the BE.
>
> The shifter and cable are mounted correctly. This is an issue that has 
> persisted even when the shifters were installed by a knowledgeable 
> mechanic. And yes, the shifter is tightened down on the braze-on.
>
> I'm considering giving Shimano Dura Ace 9spd DT shifters a try. For folks 
> using them, any issues? I've looked for 8spd Dura Ace shifters, which I'd 
> prefer, but Shimano does not seem to be making them anymore. I may just go 
> with 9spd and run the rear shifter in friction mode as my current 
> drivetrain is 8spd.
>
> I'm thinking that this might just be an issue due to the size of my frame 
> and my weight--185lb. I'd be curious what others' experiences have been 
> with the Shimano shifters. 
>
> Oh, and if anyone has a pair of Dura Ace 8spd shifters for sale, let me 
> know.
>
> Thanks,
> mike
>
>
>

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