+1 Mr. Thill continues to hit em out of the park! -JimD On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> The whole commuting in work clothes thing is getting a lot of press on > various comment forums and other more official critiques. Of course, it > depends on what you wear for work clothes, where you live (and the > corresponding weather), and what sort of hygiene is expected at your job. I > commute in Minnesota in my work clothes year-round. Since I am self-employed > at a bike shop, I don't need to wear fancy clothes, and I sort of enjoy my > own BO, so sweating a little is ok. If I had a job where I was expected to > wear a tweed suit and be meticulously coiffed and smelling of fresh soap in > Orlando, then I might select other clothes for my commute. > > On Friday, June 29, 2012 5:22:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > I thought the review was on the whole pretty good. "Performance" is of > course very personal; my idea of what a "performance" bike should be > may not be yours. But, let us remember, there are many mansions in the > Kingdom and, more to the point, there are pleasures to be had from a > very light bike that you don't get from a 31 lb bike -- that is simply > a fact to be noted and dealt with as one's tastes decide. Me, I wish > my Fargo with the "light" Sun Rhyno/35 mm Kojak wheelset were no more > than 31 lb; it is prolly closer to 40 with the fat wheelset and full > kit. But it is still immensely fun. OTOH, it is certainly a nice > feeling to climb a hill on the 18 lb gofast. I ride both about > equally. > > And I am hopeful when I hear that his views on CF are out of date: I > wonder how much of the bad news about CF is due, not to the material > but to the stupid-light designs it is used for? > > One other reviewer, less kind, slammed GP for saying you can commute > in "work clothes" up to "10 miles." I am quoting the review, not the > book. I have to agree here: unless your work clothes include a lot of > sweat, you could not commute 10 miles in our summer weather and remain > presentable for work -- even if you kept your speed under 10 mph. > Hills and winds. At any rate, *I* would be sweating like a pig at that > speed and distance wearing khakis or light wools and an ironed button > down. > > Grant has fixations that have become more particular, I think, as he > has gotten older: they seem very much to match the circumstances in > which he rides. Heck if I rode in Walnut Creek and environs, I'd have > kept my Sam HIll. But one can praise him for many things even if one > doesn't agree with it all. > > Patrick "clipless/jersey/lightweight/low(ish) bars/skinny tires on > road/no g-d twine or shellac/no even more g-d tweed/no upright > bars//OTHO//no tight pants/no helmet/no gloves/no > glasses/racks/bags/dyn lights/no endurance and no speed" Moore > > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:07 AM, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > Grant writes a book to promote something to counteract a prevailing > > mentality. The reviewer's review itself has one sentence that shows how > > pervasive that mentality is. The reviewer generally responds positively to > > Grant's book and offers the following as constructive criticism: mentioning > > a couple of Grant's points with which he disagrees, the reviewer writes, "I > > also think the notion of a 31-pound “performance” road bike (that’s how > > much > > his personal bike weighs) is ridiculous." > > > > > > > > This tells me that the reviewer has not really gotten the point. I know the > > word "performance" is in quotes, so I'm not sure how he is defining > > performance. But the phrase "road bike" is not in quotes. The reviewer > > adheres to the idea that one's road ride can be only be high-performance > > when lightness and acceleration are the highest goals. Elsewhere in the > > article, the reviewer says that cycling should be much more. But he himself > > can't allow the thing called "road riding" to incorporate cycling's other > > joys. That's a bummer. > > > > > > > > -Jim W. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven Frederick > > Sent: Jun 28, 2012 4:38 AM > > To: "rbw-owners-bun." > > Subject: [RBW] Review of "Just Ride." > > > > From none other than BIKE magazine, one of the best mtb mags. out there... > > > > http://www.bikemag.com/news/reviewed-just-ride/ > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." > > Flannery O'Connor > > ------------------------- > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > ------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2tw37Gig-cwJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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