Interestingly, the guy I mentioned who expressed surprise that I'd call my 
Cross-check a road bike actually owns a Riv custom.

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:23:56 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> "I referred to it as my road bike on a recent group ride, and one of 
> my more category-oriented companions incredulously asked, "you call 
> THAT a road bike?" 
>
> Yea, to a lot of the biking world, we pose a dilemma by not fitting 
> neatly into a box.  More than once I've encountered MTBers on simple 
> jeep or hiking trails, nothing particularly technical or challenging, 
> and they ask "what are you doing out here on THAT?"  Heck, these are 
> just roads that aren't paved, not ski runs or goat tracks; the 
> Atlantis is perfectly happy. 
>
> We are apparently mis-understood.  I for one can live with that. 
>
> dougP 
>
> On Jun 28, 10:41 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> <thill....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > This is why using a handful of narrowly defined marketing categories to 
> > describe bikes is preposterous. Among a lot of cyclists, it's either 
> > "mountain" or "road" (insert the word "performance" anywhere you like), 
> > unless it's a "hybrid" or a "cruiser" that only a nerdy old lady would 
> > ride. My fastest bike is a Cross-check that has drop bars and 40 mm 
> tires 
> > and weighs at least 30 lbs. I referred to it as my road bike on a recent 
> > group ride, and one of my more category-oriented companions 
> incredulously 
> > asked, "you call THAT a road bike?" I asked him what else he'd call it, 
> but 
> > he was at a loss to find the appropriate pigeonhole. Country Bike is a 
> neat 
> > concept, and one with which most of my bikes closely identify, but 
> nobody 
> > outside the Riv Bubble knows the term. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:07:23 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: 
> > 
> > >  Grant writes a book to promote something to counteract a prevailing 
> > > mentality. The reviewer's review itself has one sentence that shows 
> how 
> > > pervasive that mentality is. The reviewer generally responds 
> positively to 
> > > Grant's book and offers the following as constructive criticism: 
> mentioning 
> > > a couple of Grant's points with which he disagrees, the reviewer 
> writes, "I 
> > > also think the notion of a 31-pound “performance” road bike (that’s 
> how 
> > > much his personal bike weighs) is ridiculous." 
> > 
> > > This tells me that the reviewer has not really gotten the point. I 
> know 
> > > the word "performance" is in quotes, so I'm not sure how he is 
> defining 
> > > performance. But the phrase "road bike" is not in quotes. The reviewer 
> > > adheres to the idea that one's road ride can be only be 
> high-performance 
> > > when lightness and acceleration are the highest goals. Elsewhere in 
> the 
> > > article, the reviewer says that cycling should be much more. But he 
> himself 
> > > can't allow the thing called "road riding" to incorporate cycling's 
> other 
> > > joys. That's a bummer. 
> > 
> > > -Jim W. 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: Steven Frederick 
> > > Sent: Jun 28, 2012 4:38 AM 
> > > To: "rbw-owners-bun." 
> > > Subject: [RBW] Review of "Just Ride." 
> > 
> > > From none other than BIKE magazine, one of the best mtb mags. out 
> there... 
> > 
> > >http://www.bikemag.com/news/reviewed-just-ride/ 
> > 
> > > Steve 
> > 
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