Exactly. What if every shoe store in America only sold running shoes and 
hiking boots? And the staff looked at you cross-eyed if you dared  suggest 
you might want to do anything but run or hike. You'd have to dig deep into 
the dark corners of some internet "sub-culture" to buy loafers, or sandals!

On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:03:40 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
>
> When I first started cycling as an adult, I purchased a $430 big-brand 
> "hybrid" style bike that was god-awful ugly but served my novice self 
> perfectly as a commuter and general transportation/recreation machine. But 
> when I decided that I was committed enough to bikes to get something 
> fancier/cooler, the big-brand shop didn't have any upgrades that weren't 
> racing-style bikes or suspended MTBs. The message was clear: the only way 
> to be a serious cyclist was to aspire to the racing image and racing 
> paradigms. I knew that probably was not ever going to be my cup of tea. The 
> ensuing internet research led me to conclude that a touring bike was what I 
> really wanted, but the only one likely to be found locally was the Trek 
> 520, and none of the local shops I called had one in stock. Eventually, I 
> "discovered" and purchased an Atlantis. That was my first truly good bike, 
> and even though I no longer own it, it has influenced all my subsequent 
> ideas about bikes.
>
> Anyway, I agree that some people who own race bikes and related kit are 
> probably stimulated by that aspect of cycling. BUT, how many of them went 
> that direction because of peer pressure or because they didn't know of 
> other options?
>
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 10:05:41 AM UTC-5, Patrick in VT wrote:
>>
>> On May 18, 8:18 am, Pondero <cj.spin...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > Totally on board with the ride for fun philosophy, but I also suspect 
>> that 
>> > some of those in-training racer folks are actually having fun. 
>>
>> Agreed.  Almost every racer I know has a lot of fun doing it.  And 
>> despite certain preferences (some misguided, for sure), a lot of 
>> racers are actually pretty passionate about cycling in general which 
>> is a good thing.  Whether we kike it or not, cycling is still a sport 
>> and it's not just "lance wannabes" who do it - the vast majority of 
>> people will never race anywhere near the elite level, let alone pro 
>> level.  But they do anyway because it's fun to challenge yourself and 
>> participate in something.  It's no different than any other physical 
>> endeavor - you can take it as far as you want. 
>>
>> There's a marathon in Burlington, VT this weekend - the event is about 
>> as a good of an example as you can get of people of different 
>> abilities challenging themselves in the same "race."  99% of the 
>> people who line up know they will not win the race.  100% are there to 
>> prove something to themselves without regard for winning or losing - 
>> just finishing, or setting a personal record (the "PR") will be a big 
>> deal.  it's very similar to randonneuring.  bike racing is the same. 
>> it's all the same - we set goals and take steps to achieve them. 
>> whatever keeps people inspired and motivated, more power to them. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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