I can't know her (or anyone else's!!!) motivation, desires, intention or 
financial situation, but it just seems that buying a good middle of the 
road do-everything versatile bike for a first "adult" bike is a good idea. 
Try it out in a bunch of different situations; club rides, commuting, CC 
touring, rough-stuff. Then find out what you really like and more 
importantly what you really are using it for. Then buy a bike that's a bit 
more specialized in that area. Either keep the original bike for a back up 
to the dedicated one, or sell it to subsidize the new one. Everyone's a 
winner!

I'd throw the Gunnar "Sport" for a MUSA brand and the Black Mountain Cycles 
"Road" as an indie brand into the mix as well.

Of course contrary to what *I *think is best, most people in this situation 
end up w/ a racey Tre-iant-alized. 


On Friday, May 18, 2012 6:28:34 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
>
> The woman in question didn't buy a bike from me yet, but the Pacer, 
> Cross-check, and San Marcos were the three I showed her. Most of the 
> problem is not "speed", but wanting to fit in with the clubby roadies she 
> imagines she'll ride with someday. And those guys have preached a different 
> sort of gospel about carbon being a magical substance that makes everything 
> about bike riding better. I used to ride my Atlantis with 50 mm Big Apples, 
> fenders, a rack, a grocery pannier, and flat pedals on a weekly ride like 
> that. At least half my conversations on those rides involved my companions 
> trying to sell me on the trappings of the faux-racer. And I was the one who 
> was selling bikes as a job (pre-HC days).

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