This is wrong. I ride almost everyday with v-brakes, and find that I can 
apply the brakes in a wide range of modulation from zero to "locked". After 
years with cantilevers, the first time with the added power of v-brakes did 
take some practice to modulate (two or three stops was enough practice), 
but now when I ride others' bikes with cantilevers, I get scared when I 
squeeze the lever and nothing happens beyond a hissing noise (until I 
squeeze really hard, which I can because I have strong hands). Most women 
and lots of men don't have cow-milking hand-strength and can't effectively 
use cantilevers with aero levers, but v-brakes will work well even for 
those who have less than a kung-fu grip.

I just put some Avid Elixir 5 hydraulic discs on my Surly Disc Trucker. Now 
THAT is a powerful brake.


On Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:32:54 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:02 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: 
> > I wonder why folks value modulation so highly? In my view, the primary 
> > purpose of brakes is to stop effectively, and therefore, the more 
> > powerful brake is my usual preference. 
>
> It's because when I put the brakes on I do not always want to lock them. 
> Sometimes I just want to slow down a little bit, without locking the 
> brakes.   
>
> > With v-brakes, scrubbing speed in tight downhill corners or whatever 
> > isn't difficult at all to modulate, UNLESS you are accustomed to 
> > squeezing the bejeezus out of cantilevers to get the same result, in 
> > which case the v-brake will seem to lack modulation. In that case, the 
> > brake is hard to modulate because the rider has no finesse on the 
> > brake lever. No problem though, because it's easy to learn the 
> > necessary finesse. 
>
> Right.  If you want full lock, touch the levers, or just blow on them. 
> If you want anything else, keep your hands in your pockets and your lips 
> sealed.  We call that "modulation." 
>
> 8=) 
>
>
>
>
On Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:32:54 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 17:02 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: 
> > I wonder why folks value modulation so highly? In my view, the primary 
> > purpose of brakes is to stop effectively, and therefore, the more 
> > powerful brake is my usual preference. 
>
> It's because when I put the brakes on I do not always want to lock them. 
> Sometimes I just want to slow down a little bit, without locking the 
> brakes.   
>
> > With v-brakes, scrubbing speed in tight downhill corners or whatever 
> > isn't difficult at all to modulate, UNLESS you are accustomed to 
> > squeezing the bejeezus out of cantilevers to get the same result, in 
> > which case the v-brake will seem to lack modulation. In that case, the 
> > brake is hard to modulate because the rider has no finesse on the 
> > brake lever. No problem though, because it's easy to learn the 
> > necessary finesse. 
>
> Right.  If you want full lock, touch the levers, or just blow on them. 
> If you want anything else, keep your hands in your pockets and your lips 
> sealed.  We call that "modulation." 
>
> 8=) 
>
>
>
>

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