If you want to diss Rivendell's fiscally questionable maneuvers, go no further than their offer to pay you $20 if you'll subscribe to Yehuda Moon for $12. Who's the bigger fool? Riv for offering it? Or you for not taking advantage? Crazy like a fox, I tell you!
On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:34:09 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, islaysteve wrote: > > > > I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant > without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. > But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit > happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or > marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. > Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here > don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. > But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a > visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve > > Umm. Grant has weird nuts? OK that was immature, I know what Steve meant > and I shouldn't click send but it made me laugh. It's been one of those > days and I apologize to anyone who might be offended by my occasionally > Beavis-y humor. > > I like the variety of stuff at Riv and whenever I am shopping I check > those things out. I find that Grant and I often have some similar notions > about what's neat (currently it's puukko and Barlow knives. If you haven't > checked out puukko knives, do a web search. There are some astonishing > knives hand made by Finnish and non-Finnsh masters. Check out some of > these: http://www.onoma.org/arkisto/nayttelyt/puukko/puukkoen.htm) and I > like what he finds and puts up for sale. And sometimes there's a neat > story about the artisan(s) behind the items and that's cool too. > > A real challenge as a business for Riv is that they sell good stuff that > doesn't wear out. I bought an All-Rounder in 1996 and haven't worn it out > yet. Bought Phil hubs and it seems like they will outlive me. Nitto stem > and bars, gonna last a long while yet. Brooks saddle, ditto (and it's 35 > years old already). SunTour derailleurs still going strong. Good stuff > but not replaced every two years. The problem with selling good durable > products is that you keep needing new customers because your old customers > aren't coming in all the time to replace worn out unrepairables. Do Riv a > favor and send 'em new customers! > > Now if only I could get freewheels as fine shifting, perfectly geared, > quietly coasting and nice looking as the old Sachs ARIS 12-24 7 speeds > (maybe with harder cogs that don't wear out so fast). I'm down to my last > one (Jim, don't tell Mongo I put one of those back on my bike...). Maybe I > can find a machinist to make me replacement cogs from stainless... > > On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:34:09 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, islaysteve wrote: > > > > I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant > without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. > But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit > happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or > marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. > Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here > don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. > But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a > visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve > > Umm. Grant has weird nuts? OK that was immature, I know what Steve meant > and I shouldn't click send but it made me laugh. It's been one of those > days and I apologize to anyone who might be offended by my occasionally > Beavis-y humor. > > I like the variety of stuff at Riv and whenever I am shopping I check > those things out. I find that Grant and I often have some similar notions > about what's neat (currently it's puukko and Barlow knives. If you haven't > checked out puukko knives, do a web search. There are some astonishing > knives hand made by Finnish and non-Finnsh masters. Check out some of > these: http://www.onoma.org/arkisto/nayttelyt/puukko/puukkoen.htm) and I > like what he finds and puts up for sale. And sometimes there's a neat > story about the artisan(s) behind the items and that's cool too. > > A real challenge as a business for Riv is that they sell good stuff that > doesn't wear out. I bought an All-Rounder in 1996 and haven't worn it out > yet. Bought Phil hubs and it seems like they will outlive me. Nitto stem > and bars, gonna last a long while yet. Brooks saddle, ditto (and it's 35 > years old already). SunTour derailleurs still going strong. Good stuff > but not replaced every two years. The problem with selling good durable > products is that you keep needing new customers because your old customers > aren't coming in all the time to replace worn out unrepairables. Do Riv a > favor and send 'em new customers! > > Now if only I could get freewheels as fine shifting, perfectly geared, > quietly coasting and nice looking as the old Sachs ARIS 12-24 7 speeds > (maybe with harder cogs that don't wear out so fast). I'm down to my last > one (Jim, don't tell Mongo I put one of those back on my bike...). Maybe I > can find a machinist to make me replacement cogs from stainless... > > On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:34:09 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, islaysteve wrote: > > > > I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant > without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. > But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit > happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or > marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. > Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here > don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. > But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a > visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve > > Umm. Grant has weird nuts? OK that was immature, I know what Steve meant > and I shouldn't click send but it made me laugh. It's been one of those > days and I apologize to anyone who might be offended by my occasionally > Beavis-y humor. > > I like the variety of stuff at Riv and whenever I am shopping I check > those things out. I find that Grant and I often have some similar notions > about what's neat (currently it's puukko and Barlow knives. If you haven't > checked out puukko knives, do a web search. There are some astonishing > knives hand made by Finnish and non-Finnsh masters. Check out some of > these: http://www.onoma.org/arkisto/nayttelyt/puukko/puukkoen.htm) and I > like what he finds and puts up for sale. And sometimes there's a neat > story about the artisan(s) behind the items and that's cool too. > > A real challenge as a business for Riv is that they sell good stuff that > doesn't wear out. I bought an All-Rounder in 1996 and haven't worn it out > yet. Bought Phil hubs and it seems like they will outlive me. Nitto stem > and bars, gonna last a long while yet. Brooks saddle, ditto (and it's 35 > years old already). SunTour derailleurs still going strong. Good stuff > but not replaced every two years. The problem with selling good durable > products is that you keep needing new customers because your old customers > aren't coming in all the time to replace worn out unrepairables. Do Riv a > favor and send 'em new customers! > > Now if only I could get freewheels as fine shifting, perfectly geared, > quietly coasting and nice looking as the old Sachs ARIS 12-24 7 speeds > (maybe with harder cogs that don't wear out so fast). I'm down to my last > one (Jim, don't tell Mongo I put one of those back on my bike...). Maybe I > can find a machinist to make me replacement cogs from stainless... > > On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:34:09 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, islaysteve wrote: > > > > I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant > without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. > But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit > happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or > marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. > Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here > don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. > But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a > visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve > > Umm. Grant has weird nuts? OK that was immature, I know what Steve meant > and I shouldn't click send but it made me laugh. It's been one of those > days and I apologize to anyone who might be offended by my occasionally > Beavis-y humor. > > I like the variety of stuff at Riv and whenever I am shopping I check > those things out. I find that Grant and I often have some similar notions > about what's neat (currently it's puukko and Barlow knives. If you haven't > checked out puukko knives, do a web search. There are some astonishing > knives hand made by Finnish and non-Finnsh masters. Check out some of > these: http://www.onoma.org/arkisto/nayttelyt/puukko/puukkoen.htm) and I > like what he finds and puts up for sale. And sometimes there's a neat > story about the artisan(s) behind the items and that's cool too. > > A real challenge as a business for Riv is that they sell good stuff that > doesn't wear out. I bought an All-Rounder in 1996 and haven't worn it out > yet. Bought Phil hubs and it seems like they will outlive me. Nitto stem > and bars, gonna last a long while yet. Brooks saddle, ditto (and it's 35 > years old already). SunTour derailleurs still going strong. Good stuff > but not replaced every two years. The problem with selling good durable > products is that you keep needing new customers because your old customers > aren't coming in all the time to replace worn out unrepairables. Do Riv a > favor and send 'em new customers! > > Now if only I could get freewheels as fine shifting, perfectly geared, > quietly coasting and nice looking as the old Sachs ARIS 12-24 7 speeds > (maybe with harder cogs that don't wear out so fast). I'm down to my last > one (Jim, don't tell Mongo I put one of those back on my bike...). Maybe I > can find a machinist to make me replacement cogs from stainless... > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5tpF1KiCDvAJ. 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