I always considered them to by chunky mountain bikey, sort of like a 650b Karate Monkey. Will give 'em a look!
On 2/18/12, Stonehog <stone...@gmail.com> wrote: > Take a look at Rawland. Frames are around $700, but they fit wide tires, use > light steel tubing, and are built for comfort. You may be able to get them > on special occasionally in the $500 range, too. > > Mobile Brian Hanson > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:42 AM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Peter M: Yeah, I get that, and don't think that's the answer. I'm not >> looking for a low-end Rivendell, but an other brand that has the >> qualities of a Riv but for around $500. Springy steel (not light >> touring) tig w/ all the Riv features (as above). I don't need a $2, $3 >> or $4,000 bike, but one for around $1K or a $500 frameset would be >> awesome to have. I'd buy that but I'm not going to buy a new Soma bike >> or a Sam. Those are too nice and too much $$$ for what I'm thinking >> of. Something to compete w/ the 80's Trek, Univegas, Nishikis, etc >> that started this conversation. Why get an old bike, powdercoat it, >> put money into rebuilding it w/ modern parts and still not have it fit >> the tire you want and then worry about the head tube or BB cracking. >> Something off the shelf that does everything I/we need it to at a >> Surly/Salsa price. >> >> Jay in TA: Yes, that's definitely the closest out there, but not quite >> it. Something between that and a Surly Pacer. No cantis, and with >> vertical drop outs. If Salsa did that, I'd have a new bike! See, >> they're almost there, but not quite. The previous Casseroll was more >> like it, but it had that ugly fork and too slopey of a TT. But I could >> get over those and would prefer them to cantis/horizontal. I'm semi-on >> the look out for one as it is. >> >> /rant >> >> On 2/18/12, Jay in Tel Aviv <jayin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I would think that the new (2011) Salsa Casseroll fits that >>> description quite well, >>> albeit with cantis, which to my mind are a perfectly fine solution. >>> >>> I went back and forth for a while between that and the Sam I ended up >>> getting this summer. >>> FWIW the decision came down to Riv being able to confidently recommend >>> what size to get, which Salsa couldn't. I was ordering remotely on a >>> tight schedule so that ended up being the critical factor for me. >>> Pretty sure the Salsa would have done the job almost as well for a lot >>> less $. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay >>> >>> On Feb 18, 6:28 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Question: is there a truly budget minded bike that compares to a >>>> Rivendell? Something tig welded but lively and clearance for fat >>>> tires? It would be great if Grant could work with someone (Kona, >>>> Surly, Voodoo???) to come up with a made in Taiwan scorcher country >>>> bike. >>>> Tigged, powdercoated, traditional top tube (non-compact/expanded >>>> frame), tall headtube with threadless stem, spot on clearance for 57mm >>>> brakes, 430mm or so stays, $500. That's what the world needs. >>>> >>>> On 2/18/12, trek610 <tspin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Very pretty build - I like way it has turned out. Very tasteful >>>>> selection >>>>> in components. >>>> >>>>> Any thoughts on the ride VS the LHT? >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BfLiGYMPXSoJ. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> David >>>> Redlands, CA >>>> >>>> ** >>>> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an >>>> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. 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