Peter M: Yeah, I get that, and don't think that's the answer. I'm not looking for a low-end Rivendell, but an other brand that has the qualities of a Riv but for around $500. Springy steel (not light touring) tig w/ all the Riv features (as above). I don't need a $2, $3 or $4,000 bike, but one for around $1K or a $500 frameset would be awesome to have. I'd buy that but I'm not going to buy a new Soma bike or a Sam. Those are too nice and too much $$$ for what I'm thinking of. Something to compete w/ the 80's Trek, Univegas, Nishikis, etc that started this conversation. Why get an old bike, powdercoat it, put money into rebuilding it w/ modern parts and still not have it fit the tire you want and then worry about the head tube or BB cracking. Something off the shelf that does everything I/we need it to at a Surly/Salsa price.
Jay in TA: Yes, that's definitely the closest out there, but not quite it. Something between that and a Surly Pacer. No cantis, and with vertical drop outs. If Salsa did that, I'd have a new bike! See, they're almost there, but not quite. The previous Casseroll was more like it, but it had that ugly fork and too slopey of a TT. But I could get over those and would prefer them to cantis/horizontal. I'm semi-on the look out for one as it is. /rant On 2/18/12, Jay in Tel Aviv <jayin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would think that the new (2011) Salsa Casseroll fits that > description quite well, > albeit with cantis, which to my mind are a perfectly fine solution. > > I went back and forth for a while between that and the Sam I ended up > getting this summer. > FWIW the decision came down to Riv being able to confidently recommend > what size to get, which Salsa couldn't. I was ordering remotely on a > tight schedule so that ended up being the critical factor for me. > Pretty sure the Salsa would have done the job almost as well for a lot > less $. > > > > Jay > > On Feb 18, 6:28 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Question: is there a truly budget minded bike that compares to a >> Rivendell? Something tig welded but lively and clearance for fat >> tires? It would be great if Grant could work with someone (Kona, >> Surly, Voodoo???) to come up with a made in Taiwan scorcher country >> bike. >> Tigged, powdercoated, traditional top tube (non-compact/expanded >> frame), tall headtube with threadless stem, spot on clearance for 57mm >> brakes, 430mm or so stays, $500. That's what the world needs. >> >> On 2/18/12, trek610 <tspin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Very pretty build - I like way it has turned out. Very tasteful >> > selection >> > in components. >> >> > Any thoughts on the ride VS the LHT? >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BfLiGYMPXSoJ. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> David >> Redlands, CA >> >> ** >> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an >> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s >> the America I love.” > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
